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I finally just spent the first 1700 dollars on my 2007 suv aside from a set of tires and front pads. I'm about ready to get rid of my sleds though. No time for it any longer and it snows so infrequently now. Bought the suv when the economy was in the tank and gas was expensive and people were giving v8 suv's away to line up to buy a prius.
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I had the same problem with my 2016 246ssi. Burnt out the impeller and water pump. On my Bravo 3 it is a dual water pickup so their are 4 holes in the front of the outdrive. With the Merc suction cups on the water would run out these holes rather then circulate through the engine. Purchased a Mercury Mercruiser Dual Water Pick-up Flush Seal Kit which solved the problem.
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trying to surf behind a moving boat just seems ludicrous to me.
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question will be can you get to it. Drain oil, get underneath with wrench and new plug seal and have at it.
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Its definitely ok, but compared to say an OSO, challengertalk, camaro1 etc, this website is bottom barrel. Hey their page they can do what they want. Some of these other forums have 100k worth of threads which is a treasure trove of info. And its not like its bulky to get through either. Other pages have mechanical, detailing, upgrade threads, classified and vendors threads you can go. And they are for the most part moderated so you don't have to deal with overlap and people crossing lines, because of all this you get a much better draw. Theres good people here but you talking the same 50 people or less, the forum is pretty poor in terms of enthusiast sites out there go.
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Hoping someone can offer advise. I have the unfortunate luck to experience a oil leak where the oil plug bottom of my pan screws in. I understand this is somewhat of a common problem and design flaw. My question, how do people fix this. Is this as simple as just replacing the plug, or does the engine need to be pulled?
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Vehicles are different for us to and keep newer but we aren't getting into these 7-1000 a month payments that some do. If you look at purchasing avenues and add maint and up keep, weve found its either cheaper or the same cost of buying something and holding onto it for 10 plus years. LIke you said toys are different, been through sleds, boats, trailers and others, bought new a few times, but end of the day new toys unless bought as a steal are really not a smart buy given all aspects of it.
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Agree with you guys fully. We always look for lightly used toys (be it boats, PWC, whatever), and then pay cash. If you have to finance a toys, trouble lurks around the corner. First boat, 2 years old and 8 hours. Second boat, 6 years old and 30 hours. Third boat, less than 2 years old and 15 hours. Saved about 50% each time plus untold interest. Vehicles are a little different. Wife, new. Daughter and son, lightly used. Me, a mix. Drive all to between 100,000 and 120,000, then repeat. Used boats and PWC's differ from vehicles because hulls don't change much year over year due to the high fixed cost of molds (just look at the Sunesta 264, more or less unchanged going on 10 years). Yes, what bolts to them (towers for example) and the electronics change, along with colors and graphics, but almost all hulls and floors have been around unchanged for 5 to 7 + years for a given model. Some common sense, a good inspection and rational decision making saves money.
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2014 287SSX engine flush-multiple failures-help!
MonkeySeaII replied to MANFROGDOG's topic in Boat Talk
I had the same issues with muffs on my 496. I never got to a high temp alarm cause I'd shut it down as soon as the exhaust manifolds got hot. But I had so much trouble getting the thing to pump with muffs. So I made up my own flushing attachment with a ball valve and a garden hose fitting. I simply take the water pump intake hose apart at the coupling, and insert my attachment into the female side of the hose that feeds into the pump. I purchased a pc. of the water hose and the coupling on ebay. Once hooked up, I close the ball valve and turn the hose spigget on. Then once in the boat, I crack the ball valve, start the engine, then open the ball valve all the way. Works like a charm. -
Thank you Wingnut for the good information! I’ll look at the wire when I get the boat back. It’s in the shop b/c the 5.7 started knocking under a load last weekend.
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I see a lot of dealer boat ads just advertising the monthly payment number and no other details. I have not clue how long the loan terms are for on the $420 per month pontoons because they never say. We are the outliers in most groups as we choose to buy and hold our vehicles for a long time having bought them slightly used and then just save and invest like we have guns to our heads. My portfolio of houses has substantially increased in value and each one was bought in cash but all of my vehicles are worth very little by now. My daily driver is now eleven years old as is my wife's. I hear it all the time from my kids that our cars and suvs are not even as nice as their friends own vehicles much less their parents but that none of their parents have the wealth that we have earned and accumulated...yet they drive nice cars and have only one house with a mortgage. I try to put money into things that appreciate such as houses and property and securities and for vehicles find the sweet spot where the vehicle provides everything we need but is usually a generation old. If we lived at or above our means, we'd be living much larger where the toys are concerned. I think I will dial it back a bit at some point as we have now reached our 40's. Bottom line, new boats (and cars) are for other people.
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Ford or Chevy ????
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The forum is only as good as its participants. I talk with a lot of Chaparral owners down in Florida and they do not even know this forum exists. I was a moderator on the Crownline forum years ago...it was strictly monitored. I am sure this one is too s from time to time posts are deleted. I find the forum entertaining, with some good tech knowledge thrown in from time to time. The social aspect, such as getting to meet Jeff and Larry in the Bahamas is a great pus also. Bahamas 2019....Lets do it again!
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The bravo water pumps are engine mounted and with their long suction hose full of air, they take several seconds to prime. That said, during that time the pump has to be able to pump and displace the air. Moving air is much harder than pumping water and to do so, the pump rubber impeller blades must be able to seal tightly against the pump casing on both ends and all around the circumference of the impeller. Each time I have encountered your issue, the engine would self prime while in the water, but never would on muffs. It would seam that the previous owner may have ingested sand and you may have gouges in the pump housing. If you also encountered a high temperature alarm, you likely blistered the inside of the exhaust hoses and perhaps even cooked the exhaust flapper valves, if so equipped. Your engine has an aftermarket cast iron cylinder block with aluminum heads so overheating is something to be avoided at all costs as it leads to failed head gaskets. I'd get the water pump apart and do a careful interior inspection. On the newer 8.2, the pumps have replaceable wear plates which makes servicing cheaper and easier. W
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One word --- BLOWER!!!!!!
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2014 287SSX engine flush-multiple failures-help!
MANFROGDOG replied to MANFROGDOG's topic in Boat Talk
I start at idle then go up to 1200-1300 rpm as people have written to get the thermostat to open -
2014 287SSX engine flush-multiple failures-help!
sburke91 replied to MANFROGDOG's topic in Boat Talk
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I bought a used 287SSX with 45 hours recently. I use it in saltwater. I have the 8.2 liter engine with Bravo 3 outdrive. I have tried flushing 4 times and have received a "critical overheat" warning each time, and have shut it off immediately. I have the Mercury low water pickup flushing attachment to block the holes, as well as trying 3 types of earmuffs, including the two part Mercury ones. I noticed once that the water was blasting out of the suction cup on the Mercury ones, so I've even turned the water down some to avoid blow-by on the pickups. Still each way, the same result. I have never had a flushing problem on boats, so I'm stumped. When I run the boat in the bay, it works perfectly at all speeds and rpms with no warnings. I'm afraid I'm going to quickly mess something up but don't know what I might be doing wrong. Please help!
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I don't think they monitor much on this page that's why its a pretty poor forum and participation all around. Only reason I stick around is kills time and in general the conversations stay pretty civil compared to others. But in terms of what other forums offer for boats, and cars, this one is pretty weak.
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New credit is easy and cheap your right. And there's people out there and on this forum going 7-8 years on trucks and 10-12 even 15 on a boat and they'll sit here and find ways to justify it all day long. But they miss the boat on how much interest they are paying and the fact that they went 0 down or close to it, so they are forever paying on something worth less than they owe. Credit isn't bad and right now its cheap, with a good balance my money actually makes me more by sitting in account vs going in on something 100% cash, but simply going 10 years plus on a boat means you cant afford it, you wont admit it to anybody but you either secretly know it or are ignorant. People are in payment mentality, I make 1000 a month so I can if I add up all of my payments and its less than 1000 I'm good, but they really are missing the big picture. Again credit is good if used wisely, unless you are millionaire or with super means going cash down on everything is not a good idea either. Where I differ is used is easy to buy to, I bought a 10 year old boat and interest was less than 5%, new wasn't really any better. Problem with used is banks don't always go 100% and your left with putting money down.
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My experience with the used versus new is that you need money to buy used but can be cash poor and still buy new with very cheap credit. My neighbors for example at my lake home don't have a dime to their name but everything they have is brand new. All new trucks, boats, etc all due not to being high earners but to cheap credit allowing them to live way beyond their means. I love boats but we will never own a new boat as long as I live.
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Update 2: Took the boat back from the dealer, tried it on the lake and found it still leaks. I noticed that it doesn't leak when the engine is running, but after I stop the boat and shut off the engine, it starts to leak. I took the boat back to the dealer, they promised they will look deeper into it this time. I hope they will fix that.
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W - At present, no aftermarket kit is available for this particular Volvo Penta pump (part number 22031242) or YouTube videos. Stay tuned, because I believe there will be...
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WaterDR. You hit the nail on the head. watson524. There are spots the collect more water than others. It's normal. To see this, take a look at the covers when it's raining. You'll see low spots here and there, and this is where water and this scum collects. When the water dries out/evaporates, the scum is more concentrated and creates these visible spots. If you'd like to keep your new Sunesta, or any boat for that matter, totally clean, under a boathouse it goes or use a single piece mooring cover that extends below the rub rail/gunwale.
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Are there manufacturers that censor/remove less than flattering posts?
