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  1. I was at an in water boat show a couple week ends ago, looking at the new Chaps. I asked the salesman about the new Volvo 6.0 380 and he had good things to say about it. The only negative he had was that he thought it was a louder motor because of the higher RPMs it runs at. Have you all noticed an increase in decibels at cruising speeds over the other small or large blocks?

    Coming from a VP 5.7Gxi in my 2004 Four Winns 230, I haven't noticed any increase in loudness. I would guess that the 6.0 is quieter than the 5.7. You certainly notice the higher RPMs though!


  2. MisterScott, with my new 264 Sunesta, same engine with 12 hours, 70 gallons of fuel, 2 adults and 3 kids - I had a WOT of 5750 and 47 GPS and 49 on the speedometer at 4500' elevation. Did another test at 15 hours, 80 gallons of fuel and 5 adults and 3 kids with the same results! This boat hauls a$$ and sounds amazing.

    One question for you though - what is the top end of you analog tachometer? Mine is 6000 with red lining beginning at 5200 RPM. With this engine, the WOT RPM is 5600 to 6000 and redline is above 6000. I think that they installed the wrong tach on my boat since according to the analog tach, I'm always red-lining at anything about 5200.

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  3. I know the new 2013 264 Sunesta arch LED lights has a special switch (off-momentary) down by the remote control shifter by itself. The colours for the arch LED lights are purple, blue, red, and off. (same as on a 2013 257 SSx)

    Pushing the switch once will turn on the purple, then toggling thru will turn on the blue, then red, then off.

    What the wires colours are and on what terminals they're connected to I don't know. Contact Chaparral for the wiring schematic for say a 2013 264 Sunesta with arch. You will probably need the new style switch.

    One correction Shepherd - after playing with the our new 2013 264, with each push of the toggle switch the LED arch lights go from Purple - Blue - Red, then the 4th push is what my kids are calling Disco Mode - a soft diffusion from each color to the next over a period of about 10 seconds, then the 5th turns the lights off.


  4. Well, I hung around at the dealership for 4 hours waiting on the crane. When it finally arrived, I got a few pictures, but it was so late in the day that they didn't want to open up the boat and leave it exposed through the weekend, so I didn't get any interior pictures. However, the salesman apparently couldn't stand it so he made room indoors Saturday and took a couple of teaser photos for me. 826.JPG827.JPG

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  5. Congrats. Good luck trying to sleep the next few nights!

    I know! It will be at the dealer tonight, and I will be there first thing in the morning. The begins the restless nights before I take it out for the first time next Friday.


  6. Congrats TJY99- if I remember correctly from your earlier posts, this delivery date is pretty close to the original promise date. You must have pushed all the right buttons at Chaparral Hqrts.

    Exciting times for sure, enjoy!!

    It's about two weeks off, but I'm just tickled to death. Would have been nice to have it for this weekend, but it'll do!!!

    Congrats!! I would love to boat in your neck of the woods one day! Enjoy!

    Boating up here is an incredible experience. Check out Yellowtail Dam on the Big Horn river. Some of the most beautiful scenery. Not a lot of services, just a little camping. We base out of Canyon Ferry Lake outside of Helena. It's pretty there, and plenty big to find your own private area.


  7. I just received a call from Chaparral that our boat is built and loaded on a truck! And it's headed here and will be at the dealer Friday!

    I asked the Ann (the Chaparral VP who called) for a picture of it on the truck. Hopefully she will be able to deliver.

    I also confirmed with the dealer that they had the trailer (which they do!) and that they are prepared to take delivery Friday. They have a crane scheduled to off-load it and will clear their schedule to begin prepping it. I will be there for the off-loading and I'll get a bunch of pictures then. I will also go through it with a fine-tooth comb so the dealer can address any issues found before we head up to the lake to break it in 5/31.

    We are so excited!!!!



  8. Good luck but if you are at all mechanical I would do the 20 hour maint. yourself.

    Well, I haven't been able to find the blinker fluid or the muffler bearings in ANY of my cars, so I doubt that I would be able to change the oil myself. When I do any bit of mechanicing, I'm more than likely to break whatever I'm trying to fix. I'm not willing to even touch anything on this new boat.

    I would like to know of any problems you have after it shows up. My boat arrived in Dec. and all the problems didn't get fixed till about a week ago. Arch had to be replaced one sent on boat was missing a lot of clear coat, seats were replaced, mercrusier computer was replaced, lens was all scratch up. Door handle fell of the door for the bathroom. Water would not cut off on the sink. And gel coat had issues. And these were the bigger problems.. If it was not for my dealer I would of sent it back... Just make sure you go over it before accepting it.

    Randall

    Randall, I did read about your experience and WOW, I can't belive that all of that stuff happened. QC failed big time. I guess all I can do is hope for the best. But I will mention to the dealership that they should go over the boat with a fine toothed comb before I even see the boat for the first time while I'm on vacation and hopefully any minor issues will be resolved before I'm even aware of them.

    Oh, dear.......... I've been in this situation so many times (not with Chaparral but with swimming pools, cars, houses, etc). Most times, the promised date was never met. I just hope you get your boat on time but you may be SOL for this boating season. You might want to consider this a breach of contract and demand a refund.

    I've had my fair share of missed deadlines too. The dealership is more than willing to accommodate canceling the order (and it's funny that the Chap area rep. was practically encouraging me to cancel). The problem then becomes I'm boatless with limited options. The dealership is awesome and was the reason for the personal contact from Chaparral. They didn't want to be the one who delivered the bad news to me and wanted Chap to explain the situation to me personally. I guess all I can do is wait and see.


  9. Thanks to you all for the support.

    I like the idea of having the dealer come up to service the boat, but to be honest, I don't think they'll go for it. However, they do have a branch dealership only about 30 minutes away, but it's sooooo tiny. This boat wouldn't fit into their service bay, but maybe they can service it outside. I'll bet that they've never had a boat this big there, given the saleman has shared that ours is the second largest boat they've sold - the first being the dealship owner's Chaparral. I'll discuss with them as the delivery date gets closer.

    I'll be sure to post a bunch of pictures once we have it in our hot little hands.

    I am suprised that no one else has commented about their boat build being delayed. The area rep said that Chaparral was having to make lots of calls apologizing for the forthcoming delays associated with the arches.

    The bottom line is we just can't wait for it to get here. It's going to be an incredible experience!


  10. We have been notified that our new boat will be delay due to the arch manufacturer being unable to provide our arch in a timely fashion. Before we placed the order the first week of March, I had our salesperson check to make sure we would have our boat before our summer boating season. The response I got was that there would not be a problem meeting a 2 month order time - putting the boat in our hands no later than the middle of May. This date jived with our plan to break in the new engine over Memorial Day weekend. But it's not to be so.

    We were called by the area rep last week letting us know that we could anticipate a delivery of June 7/8. This delivery date kind of really screws up our summer. We leave for vacation 6/6 for two weeks, and the hopes were that when we returned, the boat would be broke in, serviced and ready for the summer guests. That was the reason we went with the boat this year. Between the break in period, trailering the boat back to the dealer 4 hours away, then back to the lake... well you can see the problems with a short boating season here in Montana.

    I also did receive a call from a Chaparral VP (a very pleasant person) who explained the whole missed delivery date. She stated that the arch manufacturer was behind on orders and basically told Chaparral that if they wanted the arches faster, they would have to fork over more dough so they could up production with additional shifts. She said she would do everything in her powers to get us the boat faster than the 6/7 date. I'm hoping that it gets delivered 5/30 at the latest, but currently it's scheduled to come off the line 5/30.

    I was offered couple bits of Chaparral swag for our troubles by the area rep, and a token credit on our order from the VP. While I can appreciate the personal calls and the situation, the entire family is a bit disappointed.

    We are still so looking forward to the new boat. However, you guys don't make it any easier posting about your launching! It's literally killing me.



  11. I have been using an inverter connected directly to the battery and a Coleman 120v air pump. Works like a dream. I have the 12v torpedo pump and hate it. Even the largest 4 man raft fills up in less than ten minutes in the middle of the lake with the 120v.


  12. Congrats on the new boat and engine upgrade choice, you will be so glad you did starting with day 2 on the water......

    Now it's time to start looking for that lake house.......there's no end to this whole lake lifestyle thing.......always want bigger, better, more convenience........that said, some of the best family and friends time know to mankind!!

    We already have the lake house - so the next logical step would be what? Pilots license - then the plane? Yes, that's the plan!


  13. Apparently my post from the other day didn't get posted for some reason. Like the others I too was recommending going with a bigger engine but not necessarily the Volvo 380. It's a new engine this year and has gotten rave reviews in the boating magazines. However it's a 6.0L engine not a big block like my 8.1L Volvo which is no longer offered. To get a true big block engine you have to go with the 8.1L Mercruiser. The big block normally aspirated engine will give you more torque which you need for towing for the same horsepower. The VP 380 gets its horsepower more from higher rpm rather than simple displacement like a big block. The other point is this is the first production year that this engine is being offered here in the US I believe. I wouldn't want to buy a new engine until it's been on the market for a couple of years.

    As far as changing it again should be no problem because Chap will reconfirm through your dealer about 4 weeks before the build date everything in the order before it goes into production. My 2 cents worth is go with the 8.2 Mercruiser over the VP 380 for the reasons cited above.

    I have no real logical reason to go with the Volvo vs. Merc. My past boats have all been VP - my dad's boats were VP. Most all the high end boats at our marina are VP. Our past boat mechanics prefered VP over Mercs. Now I'm not saying the Mercs aren't good and wouldn't dare start a flame war! Clearly they are great setups. If I had to put my finger on it, I'd say that all things being equal, I like the silver outdrive vs. a black one. Stupid reason, I know. I never claimed to be the smartest person, I know what I like. I just have a better perception of VP. Again, no logic applied to that perception.

    As for the new 6.0, I understand it's a new engine, but the fuel economy is very attactive, considering the average weekend usually costs me $$-$$$ in fuel alone. I have a had time asking people for funds to contribute to the weekend of fun, so we usually just eat the costs. I also have never been scared away by new tech. I'm an early adoptor in virtually every aspect in my life. I'm always the first with the newest model cars, computers, phones, etc. So this just doesn't phase me at all. New equals better in my book!


  14. good call on the upgrade. hopefully, you have something bigge than the A7 for pulling it. the waiting is the hardest part, but i doubt w/ a lineup of 18'-40' boats that the 26' boat was the smallest on order and it shouldn't matter about the size - :scratchchin: unless there's a women scheduling the builds, then i guess size does matter!!

    Well... there was a woman scheduling. So I guess I'm still average and not impressive.

    Yes! I do have a bigger tow vehicle. My wife's Q7 TDI - that should work right? 5500 lbs towing capacity and the 264's dry weight is 5400, so with no fuel, stuff, or trailer I'll be good!

    But seriously I have a 2004 6.0 Diesel Excursion (with tons of engine/exhaust mods/upgrades) dedicated to towing the boat. It'll do. The A7 is just my "everyday" car used to "tow" my and my dog's butts around.


  15. Thank you all for weighing in. My hesitation was originally brought on by our FW 230 being configured for a lower altitude (Single prop, different gearing, way too small of a prop to being with) and I just wanted to listen to the local dealer and do what was right for this altitude. I was ignorant in regards to all of those possible problems when I bought that boat. Back then, i just sought out a good boat for a good deal. I've learned my lesson now!



    After being enlightened by you all, I called the dealer and asked them upgrade and update the build order. I received confirmation that we will be enjoying the VP 380 hp engine. In fact when I called the salesperson leveled with me and said after he saw what I was driving, he better understood my position. I guess pulling up in a Audi A7 convinced him that I really like some power.



    Now, I've asked for a build and delivery dates, but the salesperson states that Chaparral is stonewalling him. No build date a week after ordering still! The Chaparral person even went as far to say to my salesperson that this was the smallest boat ordered last week. Huh? Really? Not exactly a great start in my opinion. All I want is to make sure the boat is here the middle of May so we can work on breaking it in. The trailer should be delivered later next week, but that's not nearly as exciting, but it's progress!



    Nevertheless, my wife, girls (3) and their friends (∞), and our friends are excited. Should be a great summer at the lake!



  16. Wow! Thanks for all the quick replies.

    To tell you the truth, my wife has been advocating getting the 380 hp. So maybe I shouldn't hesitate so much and just bite the bullet and spend the money to ensure enough power.

    I do know that the dealer has ordered the boat configured for high altitude, since they are out of Billings Montana. Gearing and prop size should be appropriate for this elevation.

    One of the main reasons we are upgrading is because we felt that we'd be having more people on the boat. The kids love to have tons of friends come up to the lake house and play on the lake. The Four Winns, while a fantastic boat, was built and configured for a lower elevation, and when 10+ people were on the boat, it just was pretty doggy, even with a new prop. We love that boat and are sad to be cleaning it out this weekend to take it to the dealer.

    The order was just placed a few days ago, so I'm fairly sure I can still change it to the 380 hp engine.

    Thanks again for your thoughts and when we take delivery, I'll post some pictures.


  17. Just ordered a 2013 264 Sunesta and we are very excited for it to arrive. However, after spending some time on the forum, I'm second guessing my engine choice. I ordered VP 320, based on our salespersons recommendation. He stated that we would be very happy with the 320 hp engine. I also added trim tabs to assist in plaining. My concern is that we will always run the boat at about 4500' elevation (Canyon Ferry Lake, Helena MT), usually with a boat load of teens wanting to raft, ski, kneeboard, and wakeboard. The salesperson spoke to the Chaparral rep and confirmed that this setup would be just fine and not really worth the $ upgrade to the 380 hp.

    Here's my experience with our past boat. A 2004 Four Winns Horizon 230 with VP Gxi 5.7 320 hp single prop. Lots of prop issues, never really solved, but ended up with an adequate prop that had good hole shot, but only a top speed of about 35 mph. I know that having the dual props and trim tabs on the new 264 will help all the way around, but the 230 weighs about a 1000 pounds less that the 264.

    With this being a $ boat, am I making the right choice with the 320 hp vs. 380 hp?

    Thanks for your thoughts!


  18. Just ordered a 2013 264 Sunesta and we are very excited for it to arrive. However, after spending some time on the forum, I'm second guessing my engine choice. I ordered VP 320, based on our salespersons recommendation. He stated that we would be very happy with the 320 hp engine. I also added trim tabs to assist in plaining. My concern is that we will always run the boat at about 4500' elevation (Canyon Ferry Lake, Helena MT), usually with a boat load of teens wanting to raft, ski, kneeboard, and wakeboard. The salesperson spoke to the Chaparral rep and confirmed that this setup would be just fine and not really worth the $ upgrade to the 380 hp.

    Here's my experience with our past boat. A 2004 Four Winns Horizon 230 with VP Gxi 5.7 320 hp single prop. Lots of prop issues, never really solved, but ended up with an adequate prop that had good hole shot, but only a top speed of about 35 mph. I know that having the dual props and trim tabs on the new 264 will help all the way around, but the 230 weighs about a 1000 pounds less that the 264.

    With this being a $ boat, am I making the right choice with the 320 hp vs. 380 hp?

    Thanks for your thoughts!


  19. Just ordered a 2013 264 Sunesta and we are very excited for it to arrive. However, after spending some time on the forum, I'm second guessing my engine choice. I ordered VP 320, based on our salespersons recommendation. He stated that we would be very happy with the 320 hp engine. I also added trim tabs to assist in plaining. My concern is that we will always run the boat at about 4500' elevation, usually with a boat load of teens wanting to raft, ski, kneeboard, and wakeboard. The salesperson spoke to the Chaparral rep and confirmed that this setup would be just fine and not really worth the $ upgrade to the 380 hp.

    Here's my experience with our past boat. A 2004 Four Winns Horizon 230 with VP Gxi 5.7 320 hp single prop. Lots of prop issues, never really solved, but ended up with an adequate prop that had good hole shot, but only a top speed of about 35 mph. I know that having the dual props and trim tabs on the new 264 will help all the way around, but the 230 weighs about a 1000 pounds less that the 264.

    With this being a $ boat, am I making the right choice with the 320 hp vs. 380 hp?

    Thanks for your thoughts!

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