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  1. I am going to assume that your boat is roughly a MY 2001 or so and is carbureted mated to an Alpha 1 Gen II drive. If so, recommend you purchase MerCruiser service manual # 25, Mercury part # 90-861328-1. With the Alpha drive, you're going to need the shift cut out switch, which means of course you'll be able to use the Volvo long block (heads, oil pan, circulating water pump,) etc and then switching over intake, carburetor, electrical harness, 90 amp fuse on starter, exhaust, distributor, etc. etc. NOTE: care will need to be taken to ensure the donor engine is the correct version to match your current MerCruiser long block. I will try and send further information on this later today.
  2. I always liked that model; really good value for the money. Sounds like you got the optional Sport seating with twin bucket and rear bench? You're not going to like to hear the price, but I so highly recommend installing newer Chaparral premium bucket seats. What Chaparral offers as an option on SSi, Sunesta etc since MY 2010 or so. Premium bucket is standard equipment I believe on SSx line. Excellent support, easy to get in and out of and very comfortable with added benefit of being fast and easy to change directions. (companies such as Boston Whaler, Sea Ray and Cobalt, etc. could really learn a few things, as their bucket seats designs are terrible by comparison) Standard Chaparral flip-up helm bucket from the SSi line Ultra-Comfort Pedestal Seat with Flip-Up Bolster - Helm (aka Premium bucket with the 'fore-aft' and 'rotate' grab handles) Recommend calling Cecil Marine as you don't need a current model year, any of that style from last 10+ year will do. My colour of vinyl is not a 100% match to original upholstery, but you'll care not once you're sitting down in it vs the original bucket seat. Night and day difference, especially in rough water. To save some money, I only installed the standard flip up bolster SSi seat for drivers helm seat, and installed matching colour premium bucket (with pull up handles) for passenger bucket to aid in spotter being able to change seat direction very quick and easily. This style of seat is a little wider than stock 2001 SSi bucket, which in turn may be have a tad bit wider than stock SSe buckets. Seat will bolt right on to your current seat pedastals if wanted or present. OEM seat pedastal was Garelick I believe. Not going to help you that much, but here is a link to previous Chaparral parts guides. http://chaparralboats.com/Content.php?content=parts_guides I know my 2001 186 SSi used this Garelick seat pedastal. Chaparral Premium bucket seats mated right up to them. https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/garelick-boat-seat-pedestal-base-75907-30-2-7-8-dia-x-7-aluminum Fast forward to 1:28 minute mark or so to see basic operation of the Ultra-Comfort bucket seat (used to be known as Premium bucket seat) https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=chaparral+257+ssx+review+australia&&view=detail&mid=269A263FB9CA79D4C1E0269A263FB9CA79D4C1E0&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dchaparral%2B257%2Bssx%2Breview%2Baustralia%26FORM%3DHDRSC3 For carpet, I believe you have glued on cockpit carpet? (non cockpit liner equipped model) Others on here will hopefully chime in with hard won experience and preference. Lastly, if your boat does not have an extended swim platform, I cannot say enough about how they enhance the usability and safety once installed. Totally transforms the boat for the better. Probably the # 1 upgrade IMHO for that generation of boat if everything else is sound. Installing SeaDek or Gatorstep, etc. makes it that much more comfortable. https://swimplatforms.com/make/chaparral/?_sft_model=200-205-sse-le-ssi-mi Sincerely apologize if my recommendations are way off base budget wise. Sometimes when in the grip of the Great White North, the very thought of warm sunny weather gets me a little light headed. Chris
  3. If you can swing the extra weight from the camper, recommend going with the 19' as it simply rides better. Haven't driven the 21' but willing to bet it rides better again than the 19'. (never have been a fan of the 3.0L L4 Iron Duke, EFI or carb'd) Should a smoother ride be wanted regardless of which model to like, you could always install Smart Tabs or full on Lenco or Bennett trim tabs. I REALLY like Zipwake, but it's not a cheap system. For owners with boats who want to do water sports, the advantage with Zipwake is there is virtually no change to wave shape from stock (no trim tabs installed) when the blades/interceptors are not wanted to be deployed (system turned off) http://www.zipwake.com/
  4. $ 14,915 + tax in CAD for a FWD B-2 drive (current spec) So far as I understand, a person should be able to bolt on in place of a DPS-A or B. I believe that very large trim tabs will be required to help make the size of wake a person may be wanting, or what I think would be better is to source and install a Malibu Surf Gate if at all possible as I'm not a big fan of the big multi-section trim tab plates on say a Cobalt WSS Surf series. Another thing to consider is possible modifications required to the trailer frame. No real improvements I don't think can or need to be made to the Volvo forward facing drives. My experience has been they work fine provided they don't hit 'hard' water. Lastly, unless you have Perfect Pass or necessary equivalent that will allow operator to dial in the desired boat speed, factor in that cost and install.
  5. Shepherd1

    237 ssx?

    If you want power and fuel economy, than I would recommend getting a Volvo powered model with the 5.3L V8 300 DP (GM Gen V) version. Will cost some money, but it has greater real world power than the MerCruiser 6.2L and weighs almost 200 lbs less. Can feel the power on tap at 4/5 throttle. If you need to go V6, than the new Volvo 4.3L Gen V beats the MerCruiser 4.5 V6 (which was based off the old GM 4.3L) As others have said, water sports requires power. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=volvo+4.3L+gen+v&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dvolvo%2b4.3L%2bgen%2bv%26FORM%3dHDRSC3&view=detail&mid=3573793BCD2B21948A5F3573793BCD2B21948A5F&&FORM=VDRVRV
  6. Please don't go with a jet boat with or without ballast bags sir. F'n suck...loud, thirsty on fuel, don't really like to cruise. agh. Just my jaundiced opinion.
  7. Just my opinion, but if you're boating on a lake, I think the 233 Sunesta would make a great first boat. All Sunesta's built before 2008 will have low deadrise so rough water usage should be considered beforehand. If rough water is going to be an issue, than I would opt for the 230 SSi as that was my favourite model in that size range for that time period hands down. Could handle the rough stuff, lots of space for passengers and gear, deep free board and handled like a dream. Boat is no harder to handle really than a 18' or 20' model. Regardless, for that time period Chaparral had bolt on extended swim platforms which were optional from the factory. NLA from the factory, but if you were looking at a model like the 233 Sunesta, than I would HIGHLY recommend installing an aftermarket ESP along with SeaDek or Gatorback, etc. Best 2 mods in my experience that can be done for a boat of that generation. Wife and kids spend A LOT of time at the back of the boat when we're swimming (picture below is not my family but they're doing the same things) For power, I recommend MerCruiser 350 Mag MPI with a Bravo 3 dual prop drive, or Volvo 5.7 Gi DP dual prop. (Volvo 5.7 GXi engine made more hp) The single prop Alpha 1 or SX drives didn't provide as much thrust or fuel economy as the dual prop drives. https://swimplatforms.com/platform/chaparral-232-233-sunesta-m-swim-platform/ Lastly, if you're looking for models from Chaparral from that time period, click on the link below for pdf of old brochures.
  8. I don't own one, but up here in our local area, granite shoals are not kind to them as they don't enjoy the same level of protection as a standard B3 or DPS-A or B. Props are exposed. Just had the techs install a complete new drive yesterday where the owner had hit several times and then the drive failed. Could see the bend with naked eye of the outer propshaft from last impact. Cost a little more than a standard DPS-A or B for replacement. For usage, my biggest concerns when in the water are the lack of ability to trim up for shallow areas, and very little room between drive and road when trailering, and turn circle is a somewhat larger when underway than standard DPS-A or B. Having said that, the pros are the forward facing drive allows a quieter boating experience from exhaust being further under the boat, allows making a larger wake for water sports along with greater wave shape control, a little more control around the dock, and slightly better performance for getting on plane. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=forward+facing+drive+on+trailer&&view=detail&mid=4E9FEFB8D2D4731E62BE4E9FEFB8D2D4731E62BE&rvsmid=3D903A8C461B8531DB653D903A8C461B8531DB65&FORM=VDRVRV
  9. What powertrain do you have? MerCruiser or Volvo, 3.0L L4 or 4.3L V6. Carb'd or EFI? Lastly, do the gauges work properly when you turn the key to the 'on' position?
  10. Guide shows a 15' and 16' cables for Volvo powered versions of the 2004 Sunesta 236. Highly recommend replacing both the shift and throttle versions. Having said that, I would go with Teleflex / SeaStar Xtreme cables for smoother shifting and feel vs the standard Teleflex series factory spec version from that time period. CCX63315 and CCX63316
  11. Ha...in freshwater not too uncommon to find the oil lines that lead from the block to the remote oil filter housing leak where the ends are crimped on on say 15+ year old boats. Age coupled with repeated heat cycles I guess.
  12. I like the 284 Sunesta. Haven't experience any real issues with the 6.0L and newer 6.2L engines. Only gripes I have are when Volvo brought out their DPS-A drives, the first thing I noticed was the very crude engagement when shifting into forward or reverse compared to the older DP-SM drives. Volvo did this apparently in an effort to make the drive more robust. The 2005 and newer style MerCruiser Bravo in my experience are much smoother than the Volvo DPS-A and later DPS-B drives. That 2017 would probably have the DPS-B drive but both the A and B shift the same, which is to say quite abruptly. On a 25' boat model, the throttle may be a little twitchy for some given the power and torque curves vs MerCruiser big block product. Exhaust noise is a little louder than MerCruiser too, but I don't know you'll have any performance issues. I really like those engines. Superior hole shot and fuel economy, coupled with seemingly readily available power anywhere below wide open throttle vs 496/502. Volvo had a bulletin for the heat exchanger on some of the early 2012+ V8-380 / 430 engines but I don't think you'll be affected and wasn't a deal breaker anyway. In North America, Volvo recommends their 10w40 full synthetic engine oil. 6.0L V8-380 and V8-430 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=volvo+penta+launch+of+6.2L&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dvolvo%2bpenta%2blaunch%2bof%2b6.2L%26cvid%3d0051b02509fd4aeca67ebd1d13ff045c%26FORM%3dANAB01%26PC%3dU531&view=detail&mid=3C2DE57F9F2FC1ABF0D03C2DE57F9F2FC1ABF0D0&&mmscn=vwrc&FORM=VDRVRV https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=volvo+v8-380+vs+mercruiser+8.2L&&view=detail&mid=70A44095CF683103C14F70A44095CF683103C14F&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dvolvo%2Bv8-380%2Bvs%2Bmercruiser%2B8.2L%26FORM%3DHDRSC3 Is there a chance the engine might actually be the 6.2L V8-380 with direct fuel injection? Heat exchanger design is different along with a few other external changes vs the earlier 6.0L version. Gen V 6.2L V8-350, V8-380 and V8-430 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=volvo+penta+launch+of+6.2L&cvid=0051b02509fd4aeca67ebd1d13ff045c&PC=U531&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dvolvo%2bpenta%2blaunch%2bof%2b6.2L%26cvid%3d0051b02509fd4aeca67ebd1d13ff045c%26FORM%3dANAB01%26PC%3dU531&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=EB9489903EDCF7D7C5A6EB9489903EDCF7D7C5A6&FORM=WRVORC
  13. Regarding the steering wheel, Chaparral used (probably still use) the Teleflex OEM splined style helm vs 3/4" tapered keyed style. Being a salt water boat, getting the old steering wheel off may be a bee-otch. Probably SOL on getting trim pieces, and I imagine you'll have to get that done locally. Always liked the later 3 spoke steering wheel, but not cheap. Perhaps the black leather and ss or chrome pieces would be too hot in Florida sun. I'm up here in the Great White North, so I want a black steering wheel... https://www.cecilmarineonline.com/steering-wheel-cast-ss-spoke-black-leather-wrapped-43-00070-in-stock-ready-to-ship/ Teleflex OEM splines style tilt helm: Wished Chaparral went with rectangular bar type rack and pinion steering vs rotary style as I felt it delivered smoother and superior steering feel.
  14. If you are considering going with Taylor Made, it's not cheap but it will be right. Does take some time to make it as they're not setting up an assembly line to put out say 300 units for a current boat model in production. Next windshield on the custom order section could be for a Sea Ray, etc. Always hated doing a windshield re&re job. Can be finicky to get the opening section to open and close smoothly and evenly.
  15. Another option you might consider is removing your current Chaparral letters and installing the smaller sized new style lettering used on the H20 models. Looks good IMHO but depending on hull condition you may wish to wet sand, compound and polish that area before putting the new letters on. Installed them on my 186 SSi and I think it looks good and font size matches the boat size. Just a thought if you can find original style lettering. http://www.cecilmarineonline.com/chaparral-logo-with-small-bird-head-30-x-2-14-00671-in-stock-ready-to-ship/
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