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  1. Bull Shoals Rat

    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    thanks for the update. Yes, we dry things off too, but water still gets in there. I drilled a couple small holes in the corner(s) that wall allow excess water to get out. Chap boned it on that part, there should be a drain in the bottom of that compartment that would get rid of the water. nice boat by the way.
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    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    SkyMonkey, Excuse my ignorance, you are saying thee is a pre drilled hole in the ski storage area, but the fiberglass was too thick and basically plugged the hole? Can you be more precise and tell me where exactly you think that hole is predrilled at?
  3. Bull Shoals Rat

    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    BSR here again. I wanted to check with anyone here on the forum, does anyone that has the Vortex 223 have a drain in the bottom of the Ski compartment located in the middle of the floor deck. I am trying to get a way for the water that accumulates in there for the day to drain down and ultimately to the bilge. I just think I could drill a small hole in the compartment and problem solved. I just don't know if there is a gas tank under there or if there is a space between that compartment and the hull. Seems like there would be, but I want to make sure prior to sinking or blowing up the boat. thanks in advance, BSR
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    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    BSR here again. Wanted to let everyone know about the 223 Vortex VRX with twin 250's as the boating season for us is coming to an end. (See my first post as I started this thread). I got the SIM card installed and the nav system works really good for night trips. I also got the $100 kit for satellite radio and that too works really nice. My only point to my above post is that the dealer should have run through these options better at purchase and we would have installed these and had a lot less problem with the Medaliion at the onset. The dealer also hooked the wiring on the engines incorrectly and with a 60 second unplug and re-plug, I now can run on one jet engine in case a jet gets clogged. Which has not happened. I also installed a four step ladder on the swim platform, that was a really good idea and boarding is a heck of a lot easier. There needs to be a drain installed in the ski storage compartment. It collects water and you have to sponge that out. I would be curious if that was a miss on my boat or if that was not considered in the design. This is a flaw. I also found a jet ski mechanic (he works on Yamaha and ROTAX) he knows more about the ROTAX than the dealer mechanics and has been a gem. He is also fairly close to our lake. For what it is worth, he does not believe you can wait until 200 hours to re supercharge the jets.
  5. Bull Shoals Rat

    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    IndyChap, I am on Bull Shoals in Arkansas. 85% of the time the water has no debris on it and the jet boat is perfect for this type of lake. Foz, man I called the dealer that sold the boat to me and the Chap dealer in AR where I am having it serviced at, neither one knows how to get the SIM card into the medallion as they say they have not had to install one yet. They are both new Chap reps of the Vortex. Seems like Chap technical support would answer that question, but I can't get anyone to call me back on that. If I knew a larger volume dealer of these boats I would call them, but haven't had much luck yet. You are also right, if you are going to run just one engine you need to shut the valve off as it would be considered towing mode. I am going to try the one engine thing again when I am back at the lake to see if that is indeed the case. It just seems really bizarre to me that the dealers don't know these answers either.
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    help with Vortex 223 VXR

    I have had my new Vortex on the water for about 3 weekends now. Everything that has been covered on this site is true. My twin 250's really eat the gas, I knew that going into it and I am ok with that. So it costs $300 more in gas for a season, I wouldn't have bought this priced boat is I were worried about $300 in gas annually, just as I am sure all the owners are too. It handles great, watersports is awesome and it looks great on the water. Also, a lot of speculation about maintenance. Change oil after 25 hours of break in and then every 100 hours after that. No winterization. Here are a couple problems I am having and I would think the solutions should be easy, but maybe not. The Medallion 6.5 inch touch screen works fine, however, the national Navigation map that is included in this system does not give me a good lake map for my home waters. So, I bought the navionics map with my home lake on it and you usually just insert the SIM card into the device and you are good for Navigation. The SIM card slot, in the manual, shows an easy install etc. However, the back of the unit has a fiberglass wall around it and looks like there is no access points, so do you have to remove the unit to get the SIM card in??? if so, I would say this is a major flaw for the design, probably have to have a dealer do the install which is ridiculous. You would think the dealer would ask which SIM card you need so it is loaded for you. Also, regarding the jet engines and the intake guards, I did get a small piece of wood inside one of my jet intakes and it shut down that engine from going over 2500 RPM's, it seemed to me that I was told the second engine can be started and you can use the unclogged engine to get back to your slip/dock and remove the debris in the other intake. My second engine would idle, then when I tried to push forward would shut off. Does anyone know for sure the boat can be ran on the just one engine???? What did I do wrong????? The other small thing, the swim platform boarding ladder should be a 4 step ladder instead of the 3 they put in this thing. (on a good note, it was very easy to crawl on my lift between the boat and the lift and get a small bar into the jet drive opening/grate and pop that debris out of there. Considering how much debris is floating in the water due to all of the rain we have had, I was very impressed that this jet did not clog only the one time. The grate design they put on the jet intake for protection works pretty darn good. They should have put an cleaning screen in there though too to fix any problem that comes up. Any help opn the above questions would be very helpful, BSR
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    Vortex, anyone driven one yet

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  8. Bull Shoals Rat

    Vortex, anyone driven one yet

    I have been driving my new Vortex VZR for about 3 weekends now and it does take some getting used to. But overall, I am very happy with the boat EXCEPT a few small issues I am having with the boat. I thought maybe here that someone may be having the same problem I am and I am looking for an easy fix. I twin 250's in my boat and for watersports, it is PERFECT and very easy to handle. The Medallion 6.5 inch monitor is great, but the system is loaded with a national map that doesn't do much good for my home lake. I purchased a Navionics map that includes my lake AND I saw from the instruction manual where to load the SIM card. However, you can't access the back of the Medallion system. Looks like it is closed off from underneath and behind the storage compartment. Do you have to actually remove the freaking system to load that SIM card that is the size of my left testicle? Man, seems like that should be convenient and it is not. So, does anyone know how to access that SIM card insert???? The other item, deals with the twin engines. I did get a small piece of wood inside one of my jet intakes. I was able to idle back to my dock/slip and get underneath the boat and remove the piece of wood. I thought I was told that you could shut down one of the engines and run off one engine (at a slower speed with awkward steering) back to your slip/dock so you don't have to worry about a tow or being stranded on a lake. Does anyone know if indeed that is true???? Last small complaint, boarding ladder on swim platform should have been a 4 step boarding ladder. If anyone knows the answer to my first two questions, that would be very helpful, BSR
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    Anyone add fins to their Vortex???

    vortex
  10. Bull Shoals Rat

    Vortex, anyone driven one yet

    I am glad to see some posts about the Vortex from Chaparral here as I have purchased the Vortex VZR 223 and want to share a few things I have learned about this boat and a few of the things I have learned that make me scratch my head as to why Chaparral did certain things with this boat. I also have the twin 250 supercharged engines in mine. It's a beast and I also knew it would eat gas, but I was ok with that. The good things I have learned: the hole shot is crazy good, really nice for water sporting activities which I have kids on this boat for tubing, wakeboarding, skiing etc, Being able to tie off the ropes from the wake tower make handling ropes about as easy as it could possibly be. The boat turns on a dime and in my opinion handles on the water incredibly nice. The Medallion 6.5 monitor is really nice to manage ski speeds, docking speeds, and cruise control is really nice too. The interior for comfort for passengers is all Chaparral and no complaints with that either. Here is where I need some help and just a few other petty problems with this boat: How do you get a Navionics chip into the Medallion system for navigation. This boat comes with a national map that is not much good on your home lake, I looked everywhere for the SIM card insert and cannot find it. The manual shows it, but looks like you would have to take the Medallion out of the dashboard to access the SIM card insert. What am I missing here???? If one of the jet engines get a piece of wood or some kind of blockage in the intake, seems like you could run just one engine and limp back to your slip to unclog the intake. I know this, because I had one small piece of wood lodged into one of my jet drives and had to remove it when I got back to the slip. We had to idle back to the slip and lift where I could remove it. I tried to power the engine that was running fine by itself, but it kept shutting down. Once I removed the little piece of wood, both engines were fine. Does anyone know what I did wrong to just use one engine???? (Again, one of the advantages to twin engines, if a piece of debris does get into an intake, I just figured you could always get back home with one engine). The boarding ladder on the swim platform should have a 4 step ladder. It has three and some were having an issue, mainly me, the owner, will probably switch that out. I bought the
  11. Bull Shoals Rat

    Vortex 223

    I did proceed with the Vortex purchase, after first 25 hours, you need to change the oil and filters, it is not $200 per engine, it costs about $100 for the two supercharged 250's i have in my boat. Then it is every 100 hours for an oil change. Winterizing will be a At 200 hours you have to have them supercharged again, which for me will be about in 5-6 years. I must say i heard alot of people saying buy the Yamaha etc and not the Chap, but this boat is a total beast and has delivered everything i thought it would. It also looks a #$^% of alot better than the Yamaha, but that could be personal preference. Only negative is gas consumption at this point if you are putting the hammer down, which i don't do often. I do wish someone could explain the Nav system on the Medallion to me a little better.
  12. Bull Shoals Rat

    Vortex 223

    I am looking seriously at the Chap Vortex 223, mainly for ease of winterization. Does nayone know for sure how often you need to change the oil on the Rotax engines that are in these boats?
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