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SG Boater

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  • Birthday 08/14/1964

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    Ste. Genevieve, MO
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  1. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Coupler also wasn't running true so prevented getting a good alignment.
  2. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Coupler was just replaced and yes it was the source of the black dust I found. It was not shot, but you could see it was moving excessively by the rubber dust present. I will look into the poor workmanship dispute.
  3. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Got the boat back today. Was very happy with OPC. Obviously haven't tried it out, but they were very thorough, even showing me pictures of what they found. The list of things found from previous shop is: Main ground wire not hooked up to back of engine properly, just slid onto the stud w/out nut; eye on small ground wire where it connects to transom assy pulled off; power steering cooler held in place with zip tie where they'd apparently taken it loose to remove engine and not bolted back in; easier to remove risers to get engine out, found that previous shop had reused gaskets; and finally, found the fiber washer folded in the port side rear mount. Apparently when they slid the motor onto the rear mounts they rolled the fiber washer so that the engine didn't sit level. The fiber washer also got bound up when they installed the rear mount bolt so that the bolt would reach torque before being properly seated, you could see how the fiber washer was pulled into the threads of the bolt. The rear mounts had to be replaced as they were no longer equal heights, assuming since the engine was in there crooked. The coupler didn't look too bad though it did have some rubber boogers all over it so it was definitely moving around and as evidenced by attempts to align, wasn't running true. Also replaced plug wires while engine out and easy to get to after finding one chafed. I didn't think their price was bad at all, about the same price I paid the first mechanic to screw everything up. Fortunately nothing damaged that wasn't bolt in. All is good and aligned now. Just have to wait for spring.
  4. SG Boater

    How I envy you guys with large garages....

    Even a foot of snow may not have usually been a problem, but this snow was heavy. At least down here a little south of St. Louis all the snow fell when it was between 32 and 35 degrees so it was wet and slushy. Gave you a real workout to shovel. I got my Westland Sunbrella cover at coveranything.com. they have a pattern for our 210's, and actually for most boats that I'd ever heard of. Ordered it, got in a few days and took it with me to pick up our "new" boat when we got it. Fit like a glove and the best price I could find. When ours was getting worked on last spring it had to sit out at the repair shop while they waited for parts. A monsoon hit MO the week before Easter if you recall, and rain came down too fast for the cover to shed it (and the shop hadn't tightened it up all the way). I also had the sun pad out to make it easier for them to work on so there was a large span unsupported. When I went to check on it over the weekend the weight of the water had the cover almost touching the floor in the cockpit. There had to be 50 gallons sitting in the cover. Used my arm to splash out enough till I could pull the cover tight and drain the rest. Not a drop got through and the cover shrank right back to it's original size so that it again fit like a glove.
  5. SG Boater

    Warranty - Cone Clutch

    I'm a little confused on this example: "A intermittent or a erratic trim sender is not a warrantable component. A trim sender that has failed is a warrantable component." Assuming it is in the warranty period, why wouldn't an intermittent or erratic sender not be be covered? It's not working properly.
  6. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Known good mechanics are what I am looking for so I'll suck it up. Piece of mind is worth something. The good feeling from saving $ this spring didn't last long.
  7. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Taking it to OPC in Barnhart. Friend of mine had his up there and he thought prices a little high but was impressed with their knowledge and work. At this point I just want someone good that can put it back right so was willing to pony up a little extra for someone that i could get a firsthand reference on. And they are as close as anyone.
  8. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Just a hobby, but I did make all the cabinets and trim in our house when we built a while back. Now it's just a table now and then when we need something. If you only need a 6", Jet makes a good jointer. I don't have a thickness planer, I use my dad's when I need it. He's got a lot of Grizzly equipment, including his 16" planer, and I'm impressed with it. Much more reasonable than some of the premium lines, and unless you're a professional (and maybe even if you are) I think Grizzly equipment does a satisfactory job. It's a good bang for the buck.
  9. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Somehow they got a nut in there on mine cause I was able to torque it back down. It will be interesting to see what the new shop finds when they pull the engine. There are probably more skeletons hiding back there from the guys this spring. Best I can tell, nothing isn't damaged that isn't a bolt on, ie. coupler, maybe mounts, so besides having to pull the engine, not too big a deal. Could have been much worse.
  10. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Well, the plan is for it all to come out, replace anything that looks even remotely worn, broken down, or??? This shop has good reviews so I am going to assume they are competent. If your friend's early 90's is anything like my '98 1830 was, that's a dream compared to the access on the '05 210 SSI I have now. I believe the 190 of the mid 2000's era is the same where there is a bulkhead midpoint on the engine. Only way to access the rear of the engine is through an approximate 1' x 1' cutout near the bottom on each side. With the bench seat out I can get my head and one arm through, no way both arms. The other arm has to go between the bulkhead and engine. From the top, all I can get to is what I can reach with my head about where the flame arrestor is. That's why the coupling has to be greased by pulling the outdrive, can't get to the grease fitting. I'll be back in a couple of weeks with good results hopefully.
  11. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    By the way, I appreciate the comments and suggestions.
  12. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    It's my full size table saw I build cabinets and cabinet doors with, machined cast iron surface. So it's a good measure of flatness, at least on a 2' piece of pipe. I also rotated the pipe varying degrees and then went through all the above with the pipe at various degrees of rotation because as you say, only a slight bend in the pipe could produce the results I'm getting. But no matter what I do, I get the same results. I wish there was something yet to check without yanking the motor, but no go that I can think of. While I was waiting for the "Busy Season" to go by I changed out plugs, shift cable, u-joint and shift cable bellows and replaced exhaust bellow with a tube. Last spring when they yanked it I had them change out the exhaust flappers. With a new coupler, I think all the usual wear items will be good for a long time.
  13. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Simply being out of alignment will prevent the 1" pipe from centering w/in the gimbal, but it would stay in the same position as you rotated the engine. The fact that the alignment changes as the crank is rotated indicates something isn't true, whether it be the coupler, flywheel, crank or ?? And the pipe-to-gimbal clearance changes approximately 1/8" throughout one rotation of the motor. The coupler is likely the only thing that could be untrue to that degree and not grenade the engine over the 60 hours I put on it this summer. The rear mounting bolt was backed out/sticking up a good 1/2" mid summer, when I originally found the nut in the bilge. This fall when I winterized, both rear mounts were visually where they should be, but the port one took a 1/2 turn or so to obtain the required torque, not a 1/2". The front mounting nuts are finger tight. I first tightened the rear portside mount and then used the pipe to see if the coupler was running true. As described above, it isn't so no use to even mess with the front mounts. No amount of adjustment is going to make the coupler run true. Now if the engine was running I could see loose mounts causing the engine to bounce around and the coupler appear to be running untrue. But I'm turning the engine over by hand, very slowly by hand. I've also marked the crank pulley with a piece of tape and turned the engine over multiple times, and got out and checked position of the pipe to gimbal. Always the same when I stop in the same location, ie. every time I stop with the tape at 12:00, pipe is in the same position. Every time I stop with the tape at 6:00, it's in the same position. But the 6:00 position is not the same as the 12:00 position.
  14. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Talked to a mechanic and will be taking it in in a couple weeks. He's certain it's a coupler as well. Nothing he can think of would allow the engine to still be running fine, yet have the coupler move around w/respect to the gimbal. Since it's run that way for at least a season, even if it was originally the result of improper mounting, etc, the coupler still will be compromised and s/b be replaced. Throughout all this I couldn't imagine the mechanic that worked on it before would be bad enough to leave the mounts loose,,,,twice. But also can't imagine I didn't have awful vibrations if that's the cause. This mechanic also said he's never seen those mount bolts/nuts back off. Hopefully I'll have a good update in a couple weeks.
  15. SG Boater

    Aluminum Locknut in Bilge, what does it belong to?

    Dennis, it's been several weeks and my memory isn't that good. The video I have was taken by my wife on my phone as I was in the boat turning the engine over and she took it from the side so kind of hard to tell. But best I can tell, it's close if not 1/8". Curt, I assumed it had taken a set as well. Both times I removed the outdrive it slid right off, but when I rotated the engine alignment got much worse. Found it too big a coincidence that the engine would have just happened to shut down with the coupler in the position of best alignment. My plan is to do as you suggested. I don't have a you-tube account, will look at setting it up when I at home. thanks all.
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