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  1. JaminZ22

    Looking for input on bow riders

    I have no trouble fixing things and learning more about my (future) boat, but when spending (what I'll consider) a big chunk of my hard earned money, I want to feel like I'm getting what I've paid for. Some people I know are keyboard warriors and like to complain for the sake of complaining, so some stuff I've read online (not in this thread) I just dismiss. If it's something small that I can fix myself in 5 minutes, no big deal, gives me an excuse to go out and spend time doing something I enjoy. On the other hand, if it's something that was just made or finished flat out wrong and it's hard to rectify, that's where I have issues. Same is true for my vehicles. With the fact that Chaparral has opted for more "premium" parts (i.e. stainless steal as opposed to plastic or cheaper metal, etc.) it at least appears from the outside that they're wanting the H2O to be in line with their brand values. Seeing some of the updates coming for 2019, it sounds like they're continuing along that same line. I'm not on the water, closest good size lake is 45 - 60 mins away (Jordan Lake). The pontoons/tris I know make more sense for people wanting a "party boat" and it's impressive what kind of power they're able to put behind them now, but I just don't think I'll ever have the desire to own one. Never say never though...
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    Towing Survey/Question

    I was the same way initially. I've got a '15 Sierra 1500 with the 5.3 and 6 Speed. I've driven a newer 5.3 with the 8 speed (same rear end gearing, wheels/tires, etc.) as a loaner when I've had mine in for service and it's amazing what positive difference those extra 2 gears can make. The shifting is smoother than my 6 speed ever has been (even brand new).
  3. JaminZ22

    Looking for input on bow riders

    Lol, "let's see if I can buy this thing with Monopoly money". Personally, when I say or hear "entry level" I don't mean/think lower quality or inferior. Instead, I can accept that the H2O line doesn't have all the bells and whistles and other luxury items that the other models do. You've got to cut out some things to be within an affordable price point that will get new people into the lifestyle. With that said, I would hope Chaparral's quality is consistent across the board from their cheapest boat to their most expensive - although I what I'm hearing is that's not quite the case.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    I just can't get on the pontoon/tritoon bandwagon. They're great for what they are, and I know people love them, but when I think "boat" that's just not what come to my mind. I feel like bowriders check a lot of boxes for cruising, watersports, shallow areas (to an extent), relaxing, etc. I think in regards to new vs. used, I'm more on the fence now than ever (previously pretty hard set on new). There are some used SSI's and SSX's around that I really like (all at or less than 3 years old) that have really peaked my interest, but now I'm having to figure out what kind of power options I should be looking for within those series. Good thing I've got plenty of time to research...
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    Wow, that's a longer list than I was expecting. I know these are "entry level" boats, but would still expect better attention to detail in the manufacturing/assembly process to not negatively affect Chap's brand image. I've always found Chaps to be some of the best looking boats out there, and I've still yet to find anything at this price point to catch my eye as much as the Chaps.
  6. JaminZ22

    Towing Survey/Question

    I don't think you could have made a better choice!! That's a sweet setup - congrats!
  7. JaminZ22

    Looking for input on bow riders

    Glad you're enjoying the boat - sounds like you got a great deal! I'm not afraid of not enjoying it enough, it's just going to be a lifestyle adjustment in order to get to use it a lot. I'd really love to get more opinions on the Merc 4.5 250hp vs. the VP 240. I've done a little reading on the forums and elsewhere online, but haven't spent much time on that aspect yet. @Unclebenny - what about the quality control did you think was lacking? Would love to know what to really pay attention to when getting serious with shopping. I see a lot of people upgrading the sound systems so I'm wondering, is it worth paying for the sound system upgrade to get the rear controller and then just add a sub, amp, and more speakers, or is it better to go with the base system and then add on to that?
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    In August?!? Man, I'm glad I don't live up north (no offense). We've just been dealing with rain, rain, and more rain the past 2-3 weeks. The bow door isn't really a need for us, but more of a nice to have. I figure if I buy new, and potentially custom order, I might as well add as much as I can. I've noticed that about the conversation on FB too, I'm in both groups and there's a lot of good info there as well. Surprised you haven't seen one though.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    Good to hear about Boats Unlimited and The Boat Rack. I've looked at both online and plan to visit both in person $^& well. Care to elaborate on your preference regarding Merc? Here are a couple of threads that go into it. TL;DR version: there's an issue with fuel getting into the charcoal canister due to how the vent line is routed. http://forum.chaparralboats.com/index.php?/topic/38322-h20-fuel-vent-fixproblem/ http://forum.chaparralboats.com/index.php?/topic/30766-fuel-filling-problem/ One reason that I may go new as opposed to used is because I'll be able to get EXACTLY what I want and not sacrifice. The problem right now is figuring out exactly what that is . If I go the H2O route (possible 2019 color changes aside) my top 3 color options would be Red with black hull and graphic, Dark Grey with white hull and graphic, Navy with white hull and graphic. Black tower for red or gray option, probably white tower if I went navy. Good to hear more confirmation about the 23'...just bad for my wallet lol. I REALLY like the new interior styling that I've seen on the few 21' 2019's out, but wondering if they'll have a different layout for the 23'. Beachweave instead of carpet is intriguing. I like the fact the carpet helps with heat on the floor, but I've never thought carpet + water was a great idea.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    Great to see someone else from NC! Mind sharing what area you're in and what Chaparral dealers you've had good experience with? I've never tried wake surfing, but definitely would like to sometime. I've looked at the surf options and while I think it'd be a "nice to have" I think we'd benefit more from a traditional bowrider with an I/O as opposed to a dedicated wake boat, or the new surf series. I won't say I'll never have one, but I would foresee that being something more important after we have kids and they get old enough to do it. I'm still researching the engines and admittedly know next to nothing about marine engines so this is good input - thanks! I've seen where some on here and the Facebook group have had vent/filter issues and am wondering if that's isolated to one engine or the other or if that particular problem is susceptible to both. As for the options, everything you've listed is on my bare minimum list! I'm anxiously waiting for the site to be updated for 2019 to see if some of the stuff I've heard/read becomes reality...
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    I wouldn't say everyone. I'm only basing this off what I see out there right now, which is pretty limited. I'm curious to see what comes available as the season starts to wind down. Good advice, thanks. The depreciation hit is definitely the least attractive thing about a new one. I started out looking at 19', now I'm looking 21-23' range. Anything beyond that just isn't practical for what I'll be using it for and how often I'm able to get out. That's very much my mindset, in this and a lot of things. Glad to hear you're satisfied with what you've got! That sounds like a sweet setup. That seems to be VERY hard to come by, at least ATM, but I'm keeping my eyes peeled and know there will be more that comes up for sale as the season ends. I really like the SSI line, but I see the writing on the walls from Chap that it's a dying breed. I've even seen rumors online, and a for sale listing of a 2019 H20 in 23'. If that's the case, I'd be surprised to see much from the SSI line this year. This is the best thing I've read all week!!
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    Anyone know what engine options were available on the 226 SSIs between 2014-2017? I've seen some 2014-2015s with VP 270HP or 5.0 Merc, but everything I've seen in 2016-2017 has the VP 240HP or Mercury 4.5 250HP I really like the SSIs, but if I go that route, definitely don't want it to be underpowered.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    By "exact" you're not far off, hearing your experience helps a lot! We're approaching our 30s and don't have any little ones quite yet. The H2O's are so attractive for the reasons you mentioned (price, features, etc.), not to mention I just love the overall design of the Chaps. I've been on good size fishing boats in the 27-32' range, but most ski/rec boats that I grew up around/in were 18ish, so the 21 will really be a little step up from what we're used to riding in on the lakes. Good to hear you've had good experience with your used ones! That's refreshing. I'm definitely a looks guy and I'm sure even something small on a used one is going to turn me off. Sad I know, but at least I'm not too proud to admit it. Doesn't mean I won't be looking at used - y'all have opened my eyes a bit on what's out there. I'm just afraid I'll be too picky to be truly satisfied, but maybe I'm wrong. First off, BEA-utiful boat! Secondly, I'm sure I'll always want bigger and more power, just the way I'm wired (as I think a lot of us here are), but with that comes a lot more $$$, all things equal. @Curt - Didn't quote your whole post to try and keep this reply shorter, but I really appreciate your insight here. I've read a lot about these options, but you've really summed it up nicely in a single post! As for this part... ...I couldn't agree more! We'll be riding/cruising/relaxing probably 60-70% of the time, water sports 20-30%, and fishing maybe 10%. We'll be the weekend warrior type and hope to keep whatever we buy for at least 5-10 years (another reason for looking at new). All - I appreciate the input thus far. I was apprehensive posting another "newbie here, need advice thread". I love the SSIs. I think it's going to be tricky finding what I want and can afford in something used, when I'm ready, but I'm definitely keeping it as an option. I'd love to hear from other H2O owners as well on what you like/dislike.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    I hadn't thought about that. I'd definitely want the 4.5 250. I'm curious to see the 2019 offerings. I've seen what they've done with the dash and interior, just wondering if maybe they'll offer slightly more power.
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    Looking for input on bow riders

    Haha! That's always the best kind of shopping, right?! I've seen that one actually and makes me wonder what compels someone to sell after only 1 season. I sure there are many reasons, but makes me go hmmm. If only it had the black lower hull and tower, then it'd be pretty much what I keep playing around with on the build site.
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