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Ford F-150 towing a sig 250

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For those who asked for more information...

This is a Ford F-150 Triton 5.4 towing a Sig 250 (6,900 lb) and trailer (1100 lb)...

The Triton handles the load with no problem...

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Very nice looking rig! Your going to love the Sig 250...it's a great boat :beer-7687-1:

You may find that once you have all your tanks full that your going to be a bit heavier. I have a 250 w/5.7l, gen and AC, and the boat/trailer tips the scales @ 9700lbs with full tanks.

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Nice looking rig you have there. I'm sure you get a lot of envious looks on the road and at the boat ramp!

I second the motion about the WD hitch. Anytime I'm over about 5K lb, I put the WD bars on my trailer. Not always necessary, but it's amazing how much of a difference it makes. The ride is so much smoother and I know I'm stressing my truck less as well.

It's amazing how strong they are making these "half ton" trucks nowadays.

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Great boat & rig.

I tow my Sig 250 with a Nissan Armada and it's not too bad.

My question is: can you add a weigh distribution kit on an aluminum trailer?

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I own a F250 with a v8 gas engine. I would much rather own and drive a F150. In addition to towing the 236 ssi, I also have a 24 foot enclosed car trailer that I tow on a regular basis. Anyone here think the F150 would work for me or should I stay with the HD?

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The longer wheelbase of the tow vehicle really is a plus. So the SC & Crew Cab F-150's tow nice.

The WD hitches really take the pucker factor out of towing. The "feel" as you enter a corner is noticeably more comfortable. :)

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I own a F250 with a v8 gas engine. I would much rather own and drive a F150. In addition to towing the 236 ssi, I also have a 24 foot enclosed car trailer that I tow on a regular basis. Anyone here think the F150 would work for me or should I stay with the HD?

The F150 would be great for the 236 but that 24 ft car trailer would be the real test. What's the weight of the car trailer when loaded? I know the new Fords are over the 10,000 lb mark but that's a lot of sheet metal behind you that can get affected by the wind, let alone having anything in it to add weight. Might want to keep the 250. And if you upgrade to a 276 or small Cruiser you already have the tow vehicle. :haha-7383::Twocents:

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The load in the trailer varies. I deal in furniture and could pick up or deliver a few pieces or fill the entire trailer. It is a confident ride in the HD and feels very safe. But still, I miss my f150 which I owned before ever towing anything. Actually its a no brainier. The 250 wins hands down in the towing category. Only now I need to decide between a Diesel or Gas. Live in Florida and as we all know there are know hills and the V8 gas works just fine. But got to love those Diesels. They own the road. But the wife has asked me to justify the extra expense before considering buying a 50,000 + dear truck when gas does the job. With Diesel prices being higher then gas and you can't find any honest data on mileage it gets a little tricky. My friend got a Dodge mega cab diesel because everyone said it got the best mileage at around 22mpg. Truth is it gets closer to 14mpg and he is irate about it. Of Course this is heard over and over by the wife. Would like to kill the friend as he always seems to share info with the wife that I would rather she did not know.

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The load in the trailer varies. I deal in furniture and could pick up or deliver a few pieces or fill the entire trailer. It is a confident ride in the HD and feels very safe. But still, I miss my f150 which I owned before ever towing anything. Actually its a no brainier. The 250 wins hands down in the towing category. Only now I need to decide between a Diesel or Gas. Live in Florida and as we all know there are know hills and the V8 gas works just fine. But got to love those Diesels. They own the road. But the wife has asked me to justify the extra expense before considering buying a 50,000 + dear truck when gas does the job. With Diesel prices being higher then gas and you can't find any honest data on mileage it gets a little tricky. My friend got a Dodge mega cab diesel because everyone said it got the best mileage at around 22mpg. Truth is it gets closer to 14mpg and he is irate about it. Of Course this is heard over and over by the wife. Would like to kill the friend as he always seems to share info with the wife that I would rather she did not know.

If it was me, and if you're happy with your present F250 gasser, I'd just keep it and think about the use of some power adders. Consider the K&N FIPK kits, aftermarket exhaust and possibly HyperTech or SuperChips power programmers. Easily installed upgrades and they give an added "punch" to the motor. I've been running them for years with great success. Check my sig to see what I have on the 5.4 in my Expy. Had that stuff on my previous 05 F150 SuperCrew FX4 also. You could drop around 1000 deer in mods and save yourself the 50+K expense of a new truck. Might be able to keep the wife happy too!

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That is a nice looking set up, Ford and all.

I agree with the WD/Equalizer hitch even for the heavy and super duty trucks if the towed weight is over 5k LBS. It is basically a requirement by just about all truck manufacturers. Some go up to 6k LBS before making it a requirement. I use equalizer hitch on the 240 Sig with the F250 HD.

Anyway, I towed my Sig 240 several years with the F-150 before moving up to the F-250 in 2009. The F-250 (6.4 L diesel), with no engine tuners or modification, averages 14 MPG around town (F-150 averaged 13.8 for same) but requires great accelerator restraint. WOOOHOOO fuel savings and tows like a maniac, booohooo diesel cost, maintenance cost and rides like a truck.

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There are many opinions and facts about WD hitches and boat trailers. Some boat trailers are not supposed to have the weight re-distributed to the tongue beam. Remember, boat trailers are constructed different than RV's, which have more of an "A" tongue. Trailer manufs. have commented that it is not recommended to use a WD hitch with the aluminum boat trailer for potential braking issues, and member over stress issues. I know what the auto manufs say and it is a quandry. But, I think they associate towing with a traditional trailer with a much higher tongue weight at 8-10%, not a boat trailer with 4-5%.

My set up is about 9300lbs, but my tongue weight is only 430lbs. I have a tandem axle with torsion suspension, four wheel disc brakes, aluminum I-beam bunk trailer that handles fine.

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I tow my Sig 250 with a Nissan Armada and it's not too bad.

Our friends tow their Crownline 270 with a Nissan Armada, and it does fine. I wouldn't want to tow longer than an hour away with it...but for their needs, it does just fine.

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We have the Red 2003 F-350...ahhhh so nice :D

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It is not how the trailer handles or how the truck pulls but how the components under load are stressed. From the ball to the hitch to the frame to the springs to the axles to the bearings to the wheels to the tires. All the tongue weight has to go somewhere and it goes through all those components. A WD hitch uses torque on the trailer frame and hitch to force some of that weight to the front axle.

It is also necessary to have the Heavy duty tow package (larger radiator, tranny cooler, larger axle, higher ratio gears, etc) to go above 9,000 lb trailer wt.

According to that pdf for Fords, you can void your Warranty if not setup properly.

The standard hitches on trucks are closer to Class III than many after market hitches which are class IV or class V.

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See, I wouldn't move up to the F-250 unless it had AT LEAST the V-10 gas engine. The F250 has a stronger frame and stronger front suspension than an F150, but if you stick with the 5.4, the benefit of the stout platform is nullified by a V8 engine that has to work harder to get all that truck moving. Maybe the frame will be able to carry the load with more confidence, but the engine will have its tongue hanging out on a steep grade.

The F-250/350 is a purpose-built work truck that is made to work EVERY DAY for 200,000 miles. I see guys dragging ditch witches and bobcats to work on a daily basis with a ten year old F-350. But you've gotta have some muscle behind all that bone structure. If you don't want to spring for the diesel, go V-10. It gets a cool 11 to 12 MPG on the highway, but for your gasoline dollar, you get 400+ lb/ft of torque at 1,000 RPM. (Plus your truck will sound like a Viper...sort of.) If you've got the bread to play and you plan on towing long distances on a regular basis, get the diesel. They aren't great on gas for just driving around, but under a load, the V10 gets about 10 MPG highway, whereas the diesel can probably stay up in the 13 to 15 MPG range, and not burn itself up as fast.

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my Ram with some power stiff will get 19/20 on hwy with no load, around 15mpg if i keep it below 68mph, i do most of the time...

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Well I tried to tow my 264 Extreme with a 2009 Ram 1500 Crew Cab - the new one with coil springs. It sagged just about to the bump stops and never felt good the two times I towed it. Struggled and never hit 5th gear. The new trucks are nice and I still commute every day to work in it but it is pathetic towing. I bought a 3500 mega cab dually 4X4 in May of 09 when Dodge was practically giving trucks away. With a few mods it is a great and stable towing rig now with the 276 SSX and the three axle trailer with electric brakes. The whole rig is stable at highway speeds and arou8nd town. The great thing about the HD's is they ride nice fully loaded and it has a Jake Brake on it which helps wear and tear on the brakes.

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There are many opinions and facts about WD hitches and boat trailers. Some boat trailers are not supposed to have the weight re-distributed to the tongue beam. Remember, boat trailers are constructed different than RV's, which have more of an "A" tongue. Trailer manufs. have commented that it is not recommended to use a WD hitch with the aluminum boat trailer for potential braking issues, and member over stress issues. I know what the auto manufs say and it is a quandry. But, I think they associate towing with a traditional trailer with a much higher tongue weight at 8-10%, not a boat trailer with 4-5%.

My set up is about 9300lbs, but my tongue weight is only 430lbs. I have a tandem axle with torsion suspension, four wheel disc brakes, aluminum I-beam bunk trailer that handles fine.

Hope you are never involved in an accident while towing your boat...might want to run this past your insurance agent.

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I was struck by the first photo on this post, as it is taken at the same spot mine is, in the dealer yard in Saint-Paul-de-l'ile-aux-noix. The only difference is that my wife was standing on the opposite side of the truck. So, as you can see, I pull my brand new 264 Xtreme with an F-150 5.4 Triton. Boat is 5,800 pounds, plus 800 pounds for the trailer. I use to tow a boat/trailer combination of close to 10,000 pounds, but only at begenning and end of season.

This new set-up feels so light compare to the previous one, that I'm thinking of bringing the boat to Myrtle Beach (from Montreal) in my upcoming trip in a couple of weeks. Excuse the poor quality of the photo, I will have some better ones soon.

Kimo

GO HABS GO!!!

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I was struck by the first photo on this post, as it is taken at the same spot mine is, in the dealer yard in Saint-Paul-de-l'ile-aux-noix. The only difference is that my wife was standing on the opposite side of the truck. So, as you can see, I pull my brand new 264 Xtreme with an F-150 5.4 Triton. Boat is 5,800 pounds, plus 800 pounds for the trailer. I use to tow a boat/trailer combination of close to 10,000 pounds, but only at begenning and end of season.

This new set-up feels so light compare to the previous one, that I'm thinking of bringing the boat to Myrtle Beach (from Montreal) in my upcoming trip in a couple of weeks. Excuse the poor quality of the photo, I will have some better ones soon.

Kimo

GO HABS GO!!!

You are right Kimo...I took this pic april 15th at Performance marine !

Pick this boat up to Myrtle Beach and bring us some pics :beer-7687-1:

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