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Hey y'all, so another day brings another challenge!! I just discover I have water.. And of course, mildew,  in the storage under the forward berth. It seems that the water is coming from the anchor locker above?!?! 

Is that even possible? And if it is, is it a minor incident or a major problem? 

I just discover that tonight while looking for something. I didn't have the time and enough light to look into the locker. We haven't used the anchor since we bought the boat. 

Anybody encountered a similar situation?

Thanks!

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Yes, I've had the same issue.  It's been discussed before and the general concenses is that there are only two possibilities for it to come from.  It could be the anchor locker as Chap has a tendancy to put the drain too high in the locker.  Mine is a full 3-4" above the bottom of the locker.   Also discovered that the drain hole isn't sealed from the factory.  I resealed the bottom of the locker and sealed up the drain with 3m's 5200, I then stuck a plastic straw through the freshly sealed drain line and let it sit.  Once cured, I trimmed the straw down.  In 4 years I've only seen water back under the birth once, so obviously not completely fixed, but far better than before.  Of course I also store with a full cover now as well.  The other location you may get water from is along the rub rail where the deck and hull meet.  This year I'll be recaulking the upper rub rail joint.  I'm also considering adding a lower drain to the locker, because it holds too much water.

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Taking waves over the bow & water wash downs,can cause some lockers to fill up to.

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On some boats it has been found that a drain hose from the anchor locker has come loose.

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I had the same issue as well as another member. I assume you have a 280 or 290? I fixed it by sealing the crack with 5200. PM me if you need more details.

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While we don't have anchor locker leakage, we have had a clogged drain hole, causing water to gather in the locker.  

You will want to get a good look at you locker empty, requiring you to remove anchor rode and chain from the locker.  Give the anchor locker a good rinsing, ensuring water is able to drin from the drain hole.  If the drain hole is clogged, use a two foot plastic sink snake to work through the debris clogging the hole.  

The drain hole is a couple inches higher than the bottom of the anchor locker by design, it keeps rock, sand and debris from clogging the hole (theoretically).   You will want to remove standing water with a sponge and let the locker dry out completely.  Once dry, look for cracked gelcoat or gaps where water may be entering.  

Fill the locker up with water up to the drain and see if standing water is leaking into the forward berth, may take over night to tell if water is draining.  No leak?  Plug the drain hole and fill a few inches above the drain hole and look for leaks, again overnight.

Hope this helps you.

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17 hours ago, Duane2135 said:

Yes, I've had the same issue.  It's been discussed before and the general concenses is that there are only two possibilities for it to come from.  It could be the anchor locker as Chap has a tendancy to put the drain too high in the locker.  Mine is a full 3-4" above the bottom of the locker.   Also discovered that the drain hole isn't sealed from the factory.  I resealed the bottom of the locker and sealed up the drain with 3m's 5200, I then stuck a plastic straw through the freshly sealed drain line and let it sit.  Once cured, I trimmed the straw down.  In 4 years I've only seen water back under the birth once, so obviously not completely fixed, but far better than before.  Of course I also store with a full cover now as well.  The other location you may get water from is along the rub rail where the deck and hull meet.  This year I'll be recaulking the upper rub rail joint.  I'm also considering adding a lower drain to the locker, because it holds too much water.

Thank you. Much appreciated. 

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1 hour ago, TidalPotomac said:

While we don't have anchor locker leakage, we have had a clogged drain hole, causing water to gather in the locker.  

You will want to get a good look at you locker empty, requiring you to remove anchor rode and chain from the locker.  Give the anchor locker a good rinsing, ensuring water is able to drin from the drain hole.  If the drain hole is clogged, use a two foot plastic sink snake to work through the debris clogging the hole.  

The drain hole is a couple inches higher than the bottom of the anchor locker by design, it keeps rock, sand and debris from clogging the hole (theoretically).   You will want to remove standing water with a sponge and let the locker dry out completely.  Once dry, look for cracked gelcoat or gaps where water may be entering.  

Fill the locker up with water up to the drain and see if standing water is leaking into the forward berth, may take over night to tell if water is draining.  No leak?  Plug the drain hole and fill a few inches above the drain hole and look for leaks, again overnight.

Hope this helps you.

Thank you very much!!

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I had this issue for awhile on my SIG 350 as well.  I nearly tore my hair out over it, but eventually my mechanic found the culprit.  Turned out to be 2 unsealed screw holes under one side of the rub rail in the front 1/3 of the boat.  Likely cause was a couple of mounting screw hole attempts that didn't take so there were a couple extra holes and then an actual screw not far away.  No sealant whatsoever had been put into the open holes.  I would not have thought this would result in as much dampness as there was under the forward berth, but I had wet carpet and mildew for a couple of seasons until he found it.  I think less likely, but possible would be a stanchion that might need to be re-bed.  Also might be a hatch needing to be re-bed as well.  Like others, I have experienced clogged anchor locker drain, but did not have water find its way into the interior.  I know routinely empty out the anchor rode and flush the locker at the beginning of the season.

Good Luck!

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So.... After emptying and cleaning the anchor locker, I see that I have only one drainage hole at the bottom of it. It was indeed clogged but the water will have to fill all the way up for it to overflow possibly into the cabin.

However I pulled the carpet out and found that the water is literally seeping through the fiberglass!!! This worries me greatly.

I sprayed water on my port rub rail and pretty much instantly the seepage increased. see attached picture  

So I now know what to do, but my question is; how much should I worry about the damage caused to the fiberglass? 

Thank you all as always

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You just need to stop those rub rail leaks and everything will dry out.  There was a big discussion on this forum years back about rub rails.  Try the search feature.

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24 minutes ago, Big Fun said:

You just need to stop those rub rail leaks and everything will dry out.  There was a big discussion on this forum years back about rub rails.  Try the search feature.

I figured the rub rail part, my worry now is more about potential long term damage to the fiberglass under the berth... :-p

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Yikes...pull the carpet back and analyze the extent of the damage. Depending on how soft the wood core is, you may need to treat it with ethylene glycol to kill the rot or cut it out and replace with new core and then reglass. The only reason water came through the floor is that crack which worries me. Your foam and wood structure could be compromised up front and you most likely have standing water under the deck. After fixing the leak, you may need to let a fiberglass expert have a look at it.

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On May 14, 2016 at 0:01 PM, drewm3i said:

Yikes...pull the carpet back and analyze the extent of the damage. Depending on how soft the wood core is, you may need to treat it with ethylene glycol to kill the rot or cut it out and replace with new core and then reglass. The only reason water came through the floor is that crack which worries me. Your foam and wood structure could be compromised up front and you most likely have standing water under the deck. After fixing the leak, you may need to let a fiberglass expert have a look at it.

I tested the anchor locker and rub rails and found no increase in water seepage. I caulked the forward posts of the bow railing and after the rain we had last night I went to check inside and.... It was dry!!! What a relief!!

 But I'll have a fiberglass specialist come inspect the damages this week!

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I bought a boat once, paid for an inspection,(long story, but the reason I don't trust inspections and will always look at a boat in person now vs paying somebody),  Either way the boat had a leak from one of the bow railings, must have been happening for some time.  Either way half the cabin had to be ripped out due to rot and 6k later.  Hope you have better luck.

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4 hours ago, soldier4402 said:

I bought a boat once, paid for an inspection,(long story, but the reason I don't trust inspections and will always look at a boat in person now vs paying somebody),  Either way the boat had a leak from one of the bow railings, must have been happening for some time.  Either way half the cabin had to be ripped out due to rot and 6k later.  Hope you have better luck.

Yup, this is sort of what I'm expecting for the OP. Hope that's not the case!

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this happened to me.  it was clogged drain hole.  pine needles, leaves, small stones.

rinse your anchor off before storing it.  keep the door closed as much as possible.

 

 

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We had lots of rain last week and after I caulked the bow rails posts I had zero water infiltration. It seems to be drying up nicely, I contacted a fiberglass guy but he flaked on me. I'm tempted to drill a couple of small holes where the water was sipping through, maybe that would help drying that spot? Not sure.

 

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Yes, drill small holes all over the area and inject ethylene glycol to kill rot spores. Then fill the holes with epoxy.

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2 hours ago, drewm3i said:

Yes, drill small holes all over the area and inject ethylene glycol to kill rot spores. Then fill the holes with epoxy.

Indeed, after some online research it sounds like a good thing to do. 

Thanks for the tip!!!!

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