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2 minutes ago, brick said:

I have decided to quit my job, stay home and wait for my free sh!t...

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Hey how did you get that political definition by the censors?

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I thought I would bring this thread back to the top. We need to discuss the outcome and what may be headed our way. For those boaters in GA, vote so that you don't have to share your boat or home to those less fortunate because some government official tells you so. We lose GA, we lose Liberty.

Are you a Stalinist, Trodsky or a Capitalist. 

Back during the French resistance during WWII, there were many communists within the resistance [I never knew that]. Many hoped that Stalin would come sweeping through Germany and into France to "save them." I read this from people who were there.  I also read that if the resistance determined that you weren't Stalinist enough, you'd be dragged into the forest and shot. 

Sounds like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She made a comment about a year ago or so: "If you're not enough of a Democrat, you'll be reported to committee." This comment supports the death stare a short time ago.

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I grabbed this image off of the tv back in Jan of 2020. Look at the caption on the lower left. What do you think will happen to our 2nd Amendment if GA goes the wrong way. 

IMG-1876-1.jpg

 

 

"They" will claim the removal of the amendment and therefore the removal of all guns from citizens will promote a safer society and less crime.  But what they are really trying to do is prevent a civil war to have "them" removed from gov't. They want to be the next 1000 year Reich.  But here is the confusing part, the 3rd Reich from the 1930's hated communism. Immense violence against the communist even before Barbarossa.  

As for guns, "they" plan on opening up the southern border to welcome everybody into our country. Not to worry, we'll pay for everything. Including the likelihood of smuggled weapons. Most likely Russian made AK-47's from Venezuela.

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On 12/8/2020 at 9:16 AM, SST said:

I grabbed this image off of the tv back in Jan of 2020. Look at the caption on the lower left. What do you think will happen to our 2nd Amendment if GA goes the wrong way. 

IMG-1876-1.jpg

 

 

"They" will claim the removal of the amendment and therefore the removal of all guns from citizens will promote a safer society and less crime.  But what they are really trying to do is prevent a civil war to have "them" removed from gov't. They want to be the next 1000 year Reich.  But here is the confusing part, the 3rd Reich from the 1930's hated communism. Immense violence against the communist even before Barbarossa.  

As for guns, "they" plan on opening up the southern border to welcome everybody into our country. Not to worry, we'll pay for everything. Including the likelihood of smuggled weapons. Most likely Russian made AK-47's from Venezuela.

That is when Texas says "bye bye" to the USSA.

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On 12/8/2020 at 10:16 AM, SST said:

"They" will claim the removal of the amendment and therefore the removal of all guns from citizens will promote a safer society and less crime.  But what they are really trying to do is prevent a civil war to have "them" removed from gov't. They want to be the next 1000 year Reich.  But here is the confusing part, the 3rd Reich from the 1930's hated communism. Immense violence against the communist even before Barbarossa.  

As for guns, "they" plan on opening up the southern border to welcome everybody into our country. Not to worry, we'll pay for everything. Including the likelihood of smuggled weapons. Most likely Russian made AK-47's from Venezuela.

WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING?

Nobody is taking 2nd Amendment away, machine guns perhaps but not guns in general.

Good read about "Reich" and a bit of 20th Century History of Europe:
1918 Germany Has a Warning for America - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/opinion/trump-conspiracy-germany-1918.html?smid=tw-share

No, it is not confusing. The national socialists (nazis) were neither socialists nor communists, they were nationalists of very far-right orientation. The movement was born out of despair and exploited by one charismatic leader promoting pan-germanism. Draw your own conclusions.

And who are "they"? Sounds like your fellow Americans are becoming your enemies. Time to reflect.

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I actually don't smoke.....anything. 

The elimination of the 2nd amendment won't likely happen over night. But I'll bet it will slowly be chipped away over time while other distractions will be put in place so as to distract attention. I guess we'll find out one way or another. I would actually support some tweaking of the 2nd amendment.

Interesting choice of article. A NYT opinion writer [influencer?]  who writes for a paper that usually supports Democrats.  Doesn't surprise me that he uses Hitler to support his opinion. 

Within a week after the election, Obama was out strutting his feathers for Biden's win. No big deal until he started warning Republican employees about their future and warning employers about hiring them and making sure background checks are made to find them. [I went looking for those comments on youtube but couldn't find the specific video those comments were made in. He made them, I'm not making them up]

My interpretation of what Obama said was that he's trying to squelch the Republican party. He's trying to squelch freedom of choice that goes against the Democrats agenda.  I too compared what he said to Hitler. Hitler used threats and propaganda to squelch the Jews [freedom of choice and way of life] and went much farther than propaganda. 

I'm certain something can be found to counter or counter-counter comments made above. So far, we are entitled to free speech. But if the Democrats are able to take total control over all of Congress[they] I'm not certain that freedom will stay in place forever unless you support their way.  Even AOC has said "if you don't support the Democrats enough you'll be reported to committee." This went on in East Berlin and East Germany and all Soviet held countries. Your best friend could be spying on you and anything seen as suspicious will get reported. New employment opportunities were always available in Siberia. 

I'll end this post with the following which was written by an B-24 Liberator pilot form WWII who survived:

"I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon if I can. I seek opportunity not security.  I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk, to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole.  I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence, the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence, nor my dignity for a handout.  I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat.  It is my heritage to stand erect, proud, and unafraid. To think and act for myself, enjoy the benefits of my creations, and to face the world boldly and say, "This I have done...' "

 

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8 hours ago, cyclops2 said:

I SAID ........... INFECT and

Point me to the data that shows how many were infected by those not wearing masks as well as the data showing that you cannot infect someone if you are wearing a mask.  I can't seem to find it.

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Short comment:

Why would anyone want a surgeon to wear a face mask and gloves during surgery? Not a foolproof and stupid idea, right?

 

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There is plenty of data documenting how face mask minimizes spread (distance and load) of aerosols that contain particles and viruses.

Efficacy of masks and face coverings in controlling outward aerosol particle emission from expiratory activities: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7 . This is the first link I found, there is plenty of other more or less scientific studies that show the efficacy of face masks.

It's all about risk management. With most things that turn tragic, there is not a single reason. There is usually a series of unfortunate events and decisions that as an aggregate result in catastrophic failure. Removing one of them could/would save the day. Not wearing a face mask is one of them. Wearing the frigging face mask lowers the risk to others and the risk to one wearing it as well.
 

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Look at other Western countries, look at Canada, and look at their approach to managing pandemic and their case/death statistics per capita. The USA does not compare well despite tweets claiming the opposite. Chances are, the USA is going to come close to the number of 1918 Spanish Flu deaths before this is over. The 1918, over 100 years ago, and well before the penicillin, modern drugs, and vaccines were invented. Shame!

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6 hours ago, Rambo said:

Short comment:

Why would anyone want a surgeon to wear a face mask and gloves during surgery? Not a foolproof and stupid idea, right?

 

Long comment:

There is plenty of data documenting how face mask minimizes spread (distance and load) of aerosols that contain particles and viruses.

Efficacy of masks and face coverings in controlling outward aerosol particle emission from expiratory activities: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7 . This is the first link I found, there is plenty of other more or less scientific studies that show the efficacy of face masks.

It's all about risk management. With most things that turn tragic, there is not a single reason. There is usually a series of unfortunate events and decisions that as an aggregate result in catastrophic failure. Removing one of them could/would save the day. Not wearing a face mask is one of them. Wearing the frigging face mask lowers the risk to others and the risk to one wearing it as well.
 

Side comment:

Look at other Western countries, look at Canada, and look at their approach to managing pandemic and their case/death statistics per capita. The USA does not compare well despite tweets claiming the opposite. Chances are, the USA is going to come close to the number of 1918 Spanish Flu deaths before this is over. The 1918, over 100 years ago, and well before the penicillin, modern drugs, and vaccines were invented. Shame!

I fully support trained personnel properly wearing appropriate PPE in the appropriate setting.  The problem is those wearing something they have been lead to believe keeps them safe.  I still don't see the data.  Where is the data showing this is effective in the population?

 

Did you even read the abstract of the linked article? 

"Further work is needed to establish the efficacy of cloth masks at blocking expiratory particles for speech and coughing at varied intensity and to assess whether virus-contaminated fabrics can generate aerosolized fomites, but the results strongly corroborate the efficacy of medical-grade masks and highlight the importance of regular washing of homemade masks."

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This argument seems crazy to a simple man like myself. Of course wearing a mask will not protect you 100 percent of the time worn but how could it be 0 percent. If I sneeze in your face without covering up the chance of you getting what I have has to increase. My favorite thing about all this is the fact that attorneys, painters, IT guys, pilots all know better then the doctors around the world that have studied this stuff for years. Some people with all subjects have a need to contradict popular opinion, like they know something you don't.

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