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Anzio Annie-A German rail gun

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Hey guys,

I have read various articles on Anzio Annie from WWII. My uncle served in Anzio but was fortunate not to have taken a direct hit from it.  But he always knew when the Germans fired it.  I have located it in Fort Lee, Va. It is inside "the fence" surrounded by brush and trees not viewable from roadside [google sat images only]. I have emailed "them" and have not received a response. 

I was curious if anybody on this forum knows somebody that knows somebody that could get me on the the base and get an escort so I could view this monster in person.  Anybody?

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If you use street view and place it on the RR tracks that go over the main street and point it back into the trees you can actually see a tiny portion of it. But I guess making the call is the next option. 

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Its funny, every time I've tried to find a website, I kept getting directed to a particular website. But today, for whatever reason, I found something quite different and very helpful. The Welcome Center. haha  I can either just show up with ID or get pre approved before heading down.  Annnie, here I come!

 

http://www.lee.army.mil/pmo/access.aspx#identification

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1 hour ago, SST said:

If you use street view and place it on the RR tracks that go over the main street and point it back into the trees you can actually see a tiny portion of it. But I guess making the call is the next option. 

Very cool:  https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2530562,-77.338155,3a,75y,315.51h,74.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSVAe2siUGCRZlOSTQSH32A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Is that the gun or is this one different?

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I think it's the one in the first picture, the second one is a huge gun too. Both pale in comparison to the Gustav gun however.

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 Was Gustav the beast on 3 railroad tracks to support the weight ?   

How do you hide the construction of a triple railroad track ?

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In the following link, you can see two rail guns. Marker B is Anzio Annie. Marker C is another recently refurbished rail gun for the Army. A lot smaller!  Via Google Street View, I have randomly seen different stages of repair on the smaller rail gun. This was over a year in the making. It looks very sharp as compared to when it first arrived. If you go to street view and zoom in, you get a great view of it. Edit addition: As e-Xtreme's link shows.

But Annie is behind a tree line. But like I said, if you place street view on the track going over Rt36 and point it into the trees, you get a glimpse of it.

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.25327,-77.33903&z=18&t=H&marker0=37.24895%2C-77.33819%2Cfort%20lee%20va&marker1=37.25019%2C-77.34058%2C3.0%20km%20NE%20of%20Petersburg%20National%20Battlefield%20VA&marker2=37.25327%2C-77.33903%2Cunnamed

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I finally got through to somebody. Access Denied.  The visitor center is for people visiting those who live/work on the base. The base does not do public tours. Oh well. Saves me a trip I guess.

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On 3/6/2017 at 3:42 PM, SST said:

I finally got through to somebody. Access Denied.  The visitor center is for people visiting those who live/work on the base. The base does not do public tours. Oh well. Saves me a trip I guess.

Sorry to hear. One of the best aircraft displays I have seen is on NAS Pensacola.  No problem getting on base to visit it.

http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/

Joe

PS: Yes not guns but military base access was the topic. 

 

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On ‎4‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 11:41 AM, Guzzi said:

Sorry to hear. One of the best aircraft displays I have seen is on NAS Pensacola.  No problem getting on base to visit it.

http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/

Joe

PS: Yes not guns but military base access was the topic. 

 

Thanks. I'll add that to the list.

This past weekend, I went to the Wright Patterson AF museum in Dayton OH. They put the XB-70 on display. Although I knew of its existence, I had never seen one. So when it was put on display, I went down to view it.  Loved it!  I just stood there in awe.

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I love the "707."  I never remember the AF designation [137?].

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I also went down to Evansville, IN to check out the WWII ship, LST 325. http://lstmemorial.org/

 

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6 minutes ago, SST said:

Thanks. I'll add that to the list.

This past weekend, I went to the Wright Patterson AF museum in Dayton OH. They put the XB-70 on display. Although I knew of its existence, I had never seen one. So when it was put on display, I went down to view it.  Loved it!  I just stood there in awe.

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I love the "707."  I never remember the AF designation [137?].

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I also went down to Evansville, IN to check out the WWII ship, LST 325. http://lstmemorial.org/

 

I am pretty big on museums and displays of military or unusual items. When we still had children at home we made time to take them to these museums. One of the things my wife and I will always remember was the reaction of our early teenage boys to one display on the aircraft carrier in Charleston SC. We were walking through the kitchen area and they had a display and recipe for one day's supply of chocolate cookies. They were fascinated about how much ingredients were required just for cookies for one day, 5,000 cookies a day if my memory is still close.

While we had our children with us we made the time to travel and see "The Worlds Largest Ball of String" so to speak. Museums and Natural "Wonders". We tried to show the children that there is a big world out there with lots of options.

Joe 

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37 minutes ago, SST said:

I love the "707."  I never remember the AF designation [137?].

They are usually designated as -135s (KC-135s, RC-135s, WC-135). But not always...the JSTARS is designated as an E-8. One reason may be that the E-8 is actually a converted 707 whereas the KC-135 is not really a 707. The -135 design was based on the 707, but the dimensions are different. Though it is actually a unique aircraft from the 707, it has a lot of similar parts. In fact, we have a few old commercial 707s here at the Boneyard that were purchased by the Air Force strictly for parts (the engines in particular).

 

Too bad I'm on the other side of the country or we could go look at the gun, sorry I couldn't be more help,

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Chewey, Interesting info and pictures.  Those old plane bone yards are amazing, they all look like they could fuel up and fly.  I can't believe our government had sense enough to save them for parts.  

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With the huge tax hit [too me] I just took, these planes should be here for a while. I was actually considering going to SC to view the a/c carrier but I just couldn't convince myself to do the 13 hour drive.  But my next trip would combine that with CLT aviation museum with the Eastern DC-7B. Maybe I'll just "creep by" Fort Lee and just show up and see what happens. Hopefully it won't be like UA. 

I climbed aboard the 2 DC-6's Datyon has. I was absolutely surprised at how large the cockpit is. The instruments were larger than I expected. The throttle pedestal was actually 2 sets of 4 throttles for each pilot.

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16 hours ago, SST said:

I climbed aboard the 2 DC-6's Datyon has. I was absolutely surprised at how large the cockpit is.

Point of interest. For years I kept a full set of shop manuals for the DC-7 that Delta operated. I was raised in a "Delta" family and my father got this for me when they were phased out. Quite interesting. Engines to instruments, doors to flaps. Very interesting to a young boy. Spent HOURS reading them.

Did not keep moving them around, must have been a hundred pounds of manuals. Gotta let some things go sometimes.

Joe 

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While ground handling for Continental many years ago, a mechanic gave me a maintenance manual for the 727. Read it nearly cover to cover. I still have it and won't let it go. I plan on taking it with me.

Back in those days, I always thought that if the world came to an end, I knew enough that I could get on a 727/737, start it up and fly it. With planes having so much electronics and computer control now, I don't think I could even get the APU started. haha

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I was recently looking at the rail gun at Fort Lee via google. They haven't moved it and the tree line is still there. BUT.....it appears that the tree line is kinda thin and not a whole lot of brush. It could be that if the trees lose there leaves, I could get a good look from the street.  

Not knowing how nature behaves down there, my question is; Do leaves fall off the trees in that region? 

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Interesting. Wonder how long those have been there. I went through a school at FT Lee about 20 years ago. Spent 3 months there. Don’t recall ever hearing about or seeing any rail guns. Then again, we didn’t exactly explore the base much either. More interested in exploring females off base. 

Looks like it’s changed a bit. Used to be an old C-47 in front of the heavy drop hanger and a Huey around back. Didn’t see either of those on the map. 

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20 hours ago, SST said:

Annie wasn't there 20 years ago. It was moved in 2010 from  U.S. Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md.,  

https://www.army.mil/article/48580/historic_enemy_artillery_piece_makes_its_way_to_fort_lee

i'll get there one of these days.

Makes sense. I definitely would have checked them out had they been there. Cool thing about Ft Lee is it butts up to the civil war battlefield for the siege of Petersburg. When we did pt out through the woods you can still see all the trench and bunkers out there. There’s also an old twin rotor helo (pre-chinook) that crashed in the 60s out in the woods just sitting there.  I was stationed at the Marine detachment there.  

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