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How long does fine salt or 20 Mule Team Borax work on  fast growing weeds in the center of a stone drive way ?  The rains & temperatures have made N J a jungle already.

Are those 2 chemicals good for in between patio paver bricks. 

I took the big weed wacker to the paver joints to stop them from seeding. Really a lush green spring.  I may have to have the mower guy cut the center of the drive way.  NO Roundup or other toxic stuff if at all possible.

I am counting on parties for friends.  Not paving 200' & the garage area.  Been in the house for 48 years & never saw a spring like this.

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On 4/26/2019 at 7:22 PM, cyclops2 said:

How long does fine salt or 20 Mule Team Borax work on  fast growing weeds in the center of a stone drive way ?  The rains & temperatures have made N J a jungle already.

Are those 2 chemicals good for in between patio paver bricks. 

I took the big weed wacker to the paver joints to stop them from seeding. Really a lush green spring.  I may have to have the mower guy cut the center of the drive way.  NO Roundup or other toxic stuff if at all possible.

I am counting on parties for friends.  Not paving 200' & the garage area.  Been in the house for 48 years & never saw a spring like this.

I have heard that rock salt works.  Denny.

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The Rock Salt Concentration Needed to Kill Plants

Written by Shala Munroe; Updated December 17, 2018
 

Rock salt and table salt are basically the same thing: sodium chloride. But rock salt is unrefined and in larger chunks, while table salt is ground smaller. Rock salt is often less expensive and can be used to cover a larger area when you need it to kill plants. It can change the salinity of the soil for years, so use it in your yard with care.

Concentration in Water

It doesn't take much rock salt to effectively kill plants in your yard. Mix 1 cup of rock salt with 2 cups of water. Add it to spray bottle or pour it directly over the plants you want to kill. Using boiling water helps dissolve the rock salt and kill the plants -- boiling water hurts their leaves just like it does your skin.

Dry Concentration

Just a few grains of rock salt are enough to kill most plants. Sprinkle the salt around the base of the plant and allow it to naturally break down in the soil's moisture. For small weeds, such as dandelions, you might only need three or four chunks. For larger plants, try a handful of the salt. It works relatively quickly, so if you don't notice the plants wilting in about two days, add a bit more rock salt around the plants' bases. Watering the plants soon after adding the rock salt will help it dissolve into the soil.

 

Soil Changes

A major problem with using rock salt even in small concentrations is that is tends to stay in the soil for years until water leaches it out. The salt raises soil salinity, which dehydrates the roots of plants and keeps them from absorbing necessary nutrients. If you add too much rock salt and it begins to affect plants you want to keep, as well as ones you want to kill, start watering the plants deeply every day to try to flush the salt out of the soil. You might not be able to save those plants, because it could take months of daily watering to return the soil to a viable salinity, but you can restore the soil so that new plants can grow.

Where to Use It

Salt doesn't always stay where it's put -- it can be washed off into your flower bed or lawn, killing large swaths of plants you want to keep. Some salt-tolerant plants such as the bigleaf hydrangea (Hydrangea macrophylla) can survive a bit of runoff, but not a full concentration of rock salt applied nearby. Apply the salt on a day with no chance of rain to let it soak in where you want it without the possibility of runoff. The best places to use rock salt are those where you don't ever want plants to grow, such as cracks in your driveway or along fence lines.

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 A weed torch might be an option for you too.  There are a bunch of different models, some that use a small take, others that require dragging a 20 lb propane tank around:

 

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=weed+killing+torch&hvadid=213939597332&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9014870&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13331890681804306554&hvtargid=kwd-322790272771&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_9rr51x6ggo_e

 

 

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HA  HA    I know about using the big blow torch  flame thrower NEAR  a springtime lawn of dried Bermuda Grass.  FIRE FIRE as I turned around & took my stress test.

Thankfully I had a long enough hose on with a trigger grip nozzle nearby.    It still was a MOMMA  MOMMA event on that breezy day. 

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52 minutes ago, cyclops2 said:

HA  HA    I know about using the big blow torch  flame thrower NEAR  a springtime lawn of dried Bermuda Grass.  FIRE FIRE as I turned around & took my stress test.

Thankfully I had a long enough hose on with a trigger grip nozzle nearby.    It still was a MOMMA  MOMMA event on that breezy day. 

Not sure about where you are, but it's so wet here, there's not a chance of anything catching on fire in the yard right now.

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Did the " Uncontrolled  burn "  2 springs ago.  I am smiling at my stupidity of.  Get it done now.  Attitude

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Final report is compiled by  "  One Eye Weed Control Company. "    It kills those pesky short green weeds between the paver blocks. It also kills all other weeds in the long stone driveway. About 18 boxes of Boraxo 20 Mule Team Borax did the job in about 1 hour of sprinkling. Then using a stiff  floor broom to spread the Borax into all the paver spaces.

Will repost in June when I go home to do a checkup. Me & the weeds.

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